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Dan
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Last Activity: Today, 04:03 AM
Joined: 09-04-2002
Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 or ? For 1/4",10g, 3/8"
    OK Dale I have to apologize for my previous post. My cat hopped up on my lap and wouldn't leave me alone because she wanted my full attention. So I misread what was being discussed.

    Still though the 210 MVP is going to be capable of welding 1/4" to 16 ga. As a starting point set the...
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 or ? For 1/4",10g, 3/8"
    If the machine doesn't offer enough power it isn't going to matter how skilled you are. I can easily make a much sounder weld on 1/4" with a 210 MVP ran off a 240 volt circuit, than I can with your Handler 140...
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 or ? For 1/4",10g, 3/8"
    The 210 MVP will handle 16 ga well with an .023 wire. .030 will work too, but I like the .023 better. Plenty of top end power for 1/4" with an .030 or .035 wire.

    The MM 211 will also of course perform well on both material thicknesses and give you even more top end power.
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  • Dan
    replied to Hobart 135 wire feed motor.
    If I am remembering correctly PTC1 is for motor circuit protection, so it would be wise to replace it with new, especially considering how cheap price wise the component is compared to a new motor.
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  • I didn't look up all the part numbers, but considering the MM 250 and the 2510 have the same part number for the transformer, stabilizer, and control board I was assuming they were basically the same unit in a different wrapper.
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  • So Keith is the Beta-MIG 2510 an old Millermatic 250 in a Hobart wrapper?...
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 or ? For 1/4",10g, 3/8"
    To have a little more heavier duty gun on the unit, I've been considering purchasing one of these for my Multimatic 215...
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 or ? For 1/4",10g, 3/8"
    I 've been using the Hobart/Miller nozzle for over 15 years and never experienced the issue that guy was having. He may have been exceeding the duty cycle of the gun by a significant amount.
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  • Dan
    replied to Ironman 230 with ESAB wire
    If it was a small / short bead, I'd just grind it out and re-weld it. Not ambitious enough anymore to want grind out 8" of a 3/8" leg fillet just to make a prettier weld bead. Next time I'll just save the money welds until the day light hours when the bugs aren't flying overhead around...
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  • Dan
    replied to Ironman 230 with ESAB wire
    Since I really have no need for much more than 200 amps my Migmaster 250 typically has an .030 wire in it. Keep in mind my machines are for home hobbyist use. So for most of my applications the .030 wire works well as a general purpose size wire, especially since most of my welding is on 1/8" or...
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    Last edited by Dan; 11-26-2018, 08:56 AM.

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  • Dan
    replied to 190 and 210MVP questions
    You are correct. The Handler 187/ 190 is a superior unit to the Handler 180 in the area of arc quality and adjustability. The arc quality improvement is due to a different choke design that reduced the spatter level and improved weld puddle wet out, especially in the upper taps. Improvement in the area...
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 and 210MVP questions
    Dale, the HH 210 mvp also has a much nicer C25 solid wire arc then the HH 140....
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  • Dan
    replied to 190 and 210MVP questions
    The arc quality of the HH190 or HH 210 MVP is superior to the HH 180, especially in the upper range of the output.

    Arc quality between the HH 190 and HH 210 MVP is similar. I've always felt the HH 190 arc quality is a little better though....
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  • Dan
    replied to hobart beta mig 250 CV
    As difficult or impossible as it is going to be to get certain parts for the Beta MIG, I'd personally rather go with the MM 211 or Ironman 230.

    I've owned an Ironman 230 for quite a few years now. For farm or home use it is a very nice unit....
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