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  • #31
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ID:	666001All kidding aside, first three shots at 100 yards with factory 117 gr ammo were about 3/4 inch. Two more shots grouped well by themselves, but went left about 2 inches. After walking out to switch targets I put the first 3 factory 85 gr into about 1/2 inch, with two touching. Again, the 4th and 5th moved. It is a sporter weight barrel and I think there is a little roughness on the inside of the inletting that pushes the barrel when it warms up. I'll keep track and see how it responds to my handloads before I start sandlng away.
    Last edited by Blacksmith; 12-06-2014, 06:23 PM.
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    • #32
      Is yours supposed to be a floating barrel and you think it might be barely touching somewhere?

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      • #33
        I need to study up before I do anything. It is a Remington 700 BDL with the ebony cap on the front of the stock. I can slip a business card between the barrel and the stock from the action to roughly the cap, then it drags. Some guns like floated, some like a little pressure. The drag is more at ambient than warm; that is what makes me wonder.
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        • #34
          Most business cards are relatively thick in relation to the gap needed but I'm not sure about that plastic material they use for the end. Maybe it changes a lot. I guess a guy would need to check it after your three rounds and a few minutes for things to change with the heat?

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          • #35
            Sandy, you are correct, most instructions (on-line) state to use a dollar bill. I still think it is tight, should be floated, and I intend to check it a few times at ambient and right after a 3 shot string. Part of the art and science of serious amateur target shooting.
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            • #36
              I';m around just don't post, lurk....

              I've sort of advanced to another reloading, shooting level....

              Lets see:
              17HMR Savage for varmits like woodchucks and coons and wabbits....

              22LR in a 10-22 for squirrels (I like crock pot squirrel btw). 22 are hard to get but I have about 7 bricks (7000 rounds) and I pick them up at Camp Perry in the summer...

              I bought a Henry Big Boy chambered 44 Remington Magnum to go with my S&W 44 8-3/4 'Dirty Harry' revolver. I load 21.8 grains of Lil'gun in Starline (new) brass with a 240 grain Sierra Comp Sports Master and/or 18 grains of Unique. both with Winchester LP primers and SAMMI COAL spec with a roll crimp. Makes a nice deer rpund Load full house, real hot, no once fired brass, all ******, new. OFB cracks the second time around... Both the Henry and the S&W are scoped (Leupold)

              I also load my 338 Lapua, Lapua brass with Lapue Scenars (250 or 300 grain) with 102 grains of H1000 with a Federal Gold Metal match primer, run in John Whidden bushing dies seated with an RCBS front load comp bullet seater.

              I'm having Ron Pierce rebuild my 308 11 Lightweight Savage with a Bartlien Barrel and Manner scarbon fiber stock in Kuiu Verde Camo. It will wear a Vortex LR scope when it's finished. The barrel will be chambered with a Bisley chamber reamer and I'll load 165 grain Berger VLD hunting bullets in Lapua brass with most likely Varget, I'll have toi build a load for the rifle and set the bullets somewhere over COAL but off the lands a bit, I presume. Again, loaded in Whidden Bushing dies and deated in a RCBS Comp front load seater. Sold the OEM furniture already.

              I'm going to buy a Savage 10 Bolt in 223 this summer sometime and I got a Husquavarna (Mauser action) in 308 that has never been fired that I need to scope.

              I basically load all my rifle rounds in John Whidden Dies now with RCBS Competition front load seaters and all the pistol stuff with Lee pistol dies, still using the old Rockchucker.

              Got a pulsed MIG and the CNC Plasma with the Hypertherm doing quite a bit of stainless (300 series) for one of my products that requires TIG welding wit the Lincoln, however, now is deer hunting time so the CVA Accura V2 frontstuffer is out. I load 100 grains of Blackhorn 209 with a Federal shotgun primer in the shimmed breech and a 251 grain saboted Barnes Ballistic Tipped Splitfire pill. The CVA wears a Nikon 4-12 BDC muzzleloader scope in Realtree Camo of course.

              I bought 44 acres of hardwood in northern Michigan for hunting last year, my wintertime 'get away'. Heading out west next year, probably Utah or Wyoming. Life is too short to sit at home.
              So little time...So many machine tools.........
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              Hypertherm Plasma (Thanks Jim)
              Plasma-Cam DHC (coming shortly)
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              • #37
                Flipper, give me a shout if you decide to head out to Wyoming next year. We've since moved across the border to So. Dakota and the Black Hills, but Wyoming is just a short drive away.
                Miller 251, Lincoln PrecisionTig 275, Miller DialArc 250 AC/DC, Hypertherm 900, Bridgeport J-head, Jet 14" lathe, South Bend 9" lathe, Hossfeld bender with a collection of dies driving me to the poorhouse, Logan shaper, Ellis 3000 bandsaw, Royersford drill press and a Victor Journeyman O/A.

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                • #38
                  Nice stuff Flip. I just want to be able to hold my own with the police snipers (my shooting buddy), retired machinists that have been hand loading since the dinosaurs roamed the earth and other assorted weekend shooters at my local range. It's all friendly, but the competitive spirit is there. Lots of .22 LR and .17 HMR action too.
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                  • #39
                    Sandy - the dollar bill was correct. The barrel is free-floating, at least on a 45 degree day, right out of the case and after a rapid (magazine-fed) 5 shot string. I got two touching in the bull during the rapid fire, so the gun is MUCH better than me. I just need to practice. A lot.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Blacksmith View Post
                      Sandy - the dollar bill was correct. The barrel is free-floating, at least on a 45 degree day, right out of the case and after a rapid (magazine-fed) 5 shot string. I got two touching in the bull during the rapid fire, so the gun is MUCH better than me. I just need to practice. A lot.
                      Glad it's looking like things are okay. I went through something similar with a new winchester model 70 out of the box. two, three right on, one wild one. Then two or three dead on, one wild one. I was about to give it up as a lost cause then finally went and picked up a lead sled. Every thing stabilized after that. Before I was using all bags. Of course I never will drive nails unless I put the barrel over them 1st . I do good to get about a one to one & a half inch at 100 yds.

                      Getting older plus bi-focals is taking its toll

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                      • #41
                        A decent scope makes a huge difference. Of course now I want to replace the $50 Redhead (Bass Pro Shops) 3x9 on my Remington 597. I also work very hard to try and reduce my heart rate and control my breathing for each shot. I suspect some of my wild shots are when I don't concentrate and follow the routine.
                        Blacksmith
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                        Hand cranked coal forge
                        Freon bottle propane forge
                        HH 210 and bottle of C25

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