Champion 16 Running Gear

HI WILL..............WHAT I LISTED IS FOR THE PC BOARD DESIGNED ONE ONLY. IT HADD A POT IN IN 5K 2WATTT........YOUR HAS A RHEOSTATE IN IT THE PARTS LISTED WON'T WORK......... YOU HAVE THE NEXT TO LAST UNIT GOING DOWN THE LINE...... SO YOU NEED THE TOGGLE SWITCH AND CABLE.............ROCK

[Will]

Rock, I figured you would come through! Could you tell from my pics if this is a PC board machine? I don't see a PC board, but all I did was take the lid off. I'm sure it is late production, because the 10000 was out when I bought it. Can these parts be ordered through my dealer? I am still torn between doing this or getting the new 180SD and running it off the Champ when I need to be outside the shop. Maybe I need to get prices on these parts so I can see what the cost difference is.

I looked into a wirefeeder for the Champ after I got it, but by the time I got the adapter and feeder, it was more cost effective to get the HH175. So that is what I did. It runs fine off the Champ 16. I can post the Champ serial number if you need it. Thanks for all the help!

HI WILL............THIS IS THE INFORMATION ON THE CHAMPION 16. PLEASE NOTE........FOR THE PC BOARD DESIGNED ONE ONLY. THAT WOULD BE THE LAST ONE GOING DOWN THE LINE....... PART NUMBERS AND DESCRIPTIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS.........
8RT764A...........REMOTE ON/OFF
492330-005......REMOTE PENDANT
494808.............KIT FOR REMOTE PENDANT
200460-001......FOOT CONTROL
494808.............KIT FOR FOOT CONTROL

PLEASE NOT THE 494808 IS REQUIRED FOR THE REMOTE CLIP ON STYLE TIG TORCH CONTROL AND FOR THE FOOT CONTROL ALSO. YOU DO NOT NEED 2 KITS ONLY ONE FOR EITHER THE PENDANT OR THE FOOT CONTROL.......... DID YOU THINK I FORGOT..... ENJOY THE SEARCH........................ROCK
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HI JOHN.............HEY MAN CHIME IN ANYTIME YOU WANT.........THE 6 CONDUCTOR I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS FOR THE FOOT PEDAL. 2 WIRES ARE FOR CONTACTOR CLOSURE USUALLY A&B........THEN THE 3 WIRE'S TO THE POT FOR CURRENT CONTROL D, E, &F AND THE 6TH WIRE I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS FOR GROUND G......... SOMETIMES I MIGHT NOT MAKE MYSELF CLEAR............ ONLY ONE CHAMPION 16 HAD THE CAPABILITY FOR THIS SET UP AND IT WAS THE PC BOARD DESIGNED ONE...........THAT WAS THE LAST ONE HOBARTS PRODUCED DOWN THE LINE...........NO PROBLEM ON THE COMMENT AT ALL............HEY EVERYONCE IN AWHILE THEY CATCH ME IN A MISTAKE........................ IT IS HUMAN TO ERROR...........................................TH ANKS...............ROCK

[jniolon]

foot control wiring question ???

Rock,

I don't want to sound like I know anything about nuthin... but your comment about not having 6 conductor # 12 wire...available.

They do make cable in a 6 conductor configuration... we use it all the time here for control wiring and pendant controls on cranes and such... any industrial operation should have this... and I'd imagine you could buy it by the foot at suppliers...

now granted it's heavier than 12/3 romex but for the convenience of having the full blown foot control, I'll bet some wouldn't mind the inconvenience. I could probably get some makers and part numbers if anyone is interested ??

just a thought and a suggestion and if everyone already knows this I'm sorry for assuming...

john

I've never completely understoon anything !!

[Will]

A better pic of the plugged holes on the control panel.

I don't see a PC board Rock. It all looks hard wired to me. I can post the serial number if it will help. It is a late production model though since the new 10000 was out when I bought it. I chose the Champ 16 because it also has AC, the 10000 was DC only.

[Will]

Another close up

[Will]

Close up of rheostat

[Will]

Inside the control panel

[Will]

Thanks Rock, I hope you come up with the info. Here are some pics of the control rheostat.

HI WILL.........THE ONLY ONE WAS FOR THE PC BOARD CONTROL....... ALL THE REST WERE STANDARD HARD WIRE REMOTES.............. DON'T REMEMBER THE PART NUMBERS......ALL THAT OLD INFORMATION FELL BY THE WAY SIDE WITH THE PRICE SHEETS AOUT 1995-96 TIME FRAME...............HOWEVER I WILL LOOK AROUND AND SEE IF ANY OLD INFO IS HERE ANY MORE.............HAVE MADE ONE CONTACT THAT MAY HAVE IT I WILL LET YOU KNOW.................ROCK[email protected]

[Will]

Rock...You said that you don't offer a remote for the Champ 16 "anymore". Does that mean that Hobart once sold one??? What was the model number, and can I get a copy of the manual for it? Maybe I can find a used one on the market somewhere.
Thanks

Dave, I think Frank's SW was SWitch. Thanks for the comment on the trailer....Not a lot of work...just bolted it down. No more than a couple of hours into the cable hangers paint and all. I am going to take the sheetmetal off the champ today to see what I am getting into and whether the rheostat is mounted on a PC board or not. I'll post some pics of the inside of it.

[Dave Haak]

Champion 16 remote

Will,

Nice set up with your trailer!

Frank,

Can I talk you out of a little more detail?

1. Size and description of rheostat?

2. When you refer to face plate, is this the welder control panel?

3. What is SW?

4. Side panel is side of welder adjacent to control panel?

More detail would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Dave

HI WILL.............. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT THE PC BOARDD DESIGNED UNIT........... GOOD LUCK.................ROCK[email protected]

[Will]

It looks like it would be easy to add a connector and switch in the plugged holes that are shown in the attached pic. The foot pedal may be a little harder to fabricate, but it should be possible to fab up a foot pedal that turns the rheostat.....anyone got an old foot pedal they want to get rid of? Thanks Rock. I'll let you know how it goes.