Franz ( acid heart burn )

[widetrackman]

Franz, I know you've hammeded on this (phosphoric acid ) You said use 5-6% solution ? How much water would you use for a pt. of 75% acid ( aint no chemus ) & is $13.80/ gal reasonable ? BTW-- **** stuff @ 75/85% hard to find , took a week to find a guy that would sell me a 6 gal. jug of 75 @ $13.80/gal. Guy wanted to know what I wanted it for. Didn't know what to say (didnt want to quere the deel ) so I said Iam a farmer and want to put it on my lettus patch ( for real ).He said your nuts, pick it tomorrow I replied; Franz told me to.HA HA Thanks for all the previous info on the acid.

[Franz]

I just know Stovepoker's gonna tell me I'm wrong with my calculations here, but till he does, I'm gonna say a pint of 75% acid in 2 gallons of water oughta be about right.
Pete (stovepoker) is a real chemicle engineer type, and he can give you much better answers than I can on prices cause he buys more of the stuff.
Don't ya just love the crap these counter warmers dish out when you want to buy one of their products? Seems like if they really knew what they were selling, and what can be done with it, they might know enough to not ask stupid questions. It ain't like you were asking for nitric acid and glycerin.
Did he also nail you for a chem weight 5 gallon container?
BTW, Phosphoric is legitimately used on lettus, so I guess you just ain't in a lettus growin area. Might be something about the time of year and growing seasons that made him wonder though.
You could have told him you were microbrewing home made soda pop too.

[widetrackman]

Originally posted by Franz
I just know Stovepoker's gonna tell me I'm wrong with my calculations here, but till he does, I'm gonna say a pint of 75% acid in 2 gallons of water oughta be about right.
Pete (stovepoker) is a real chemicle engineer type, and he can give you much better answers than I can on prices cause he buys more of the stuff.
Don't ya just love the crap these counter warmers dish out when you want to buy one of their products? Seems like if they really knew what they were selling, and what can be done with it, they might know enough to not ask stupid questions. It ain't like you were asking for nitric acid and glycerin.
Did he also nail you for a chem weight 5 gallon container?
BTW, Phosphoric is legitimately used on lettus, so I guess you just ain't in a lettus growin area. Might be something about the time of year and growing seasons that made him wonder though.
You could have told him you were microbrewing home made soda pop too.

Franz, thanks for the info. No charge or deposit on container, never seen a 6 gal jug, guess I'll find out wen.

[stovepoker]

Franz, your numbers arent that far off. The 75% stuff is easiest to find and the suppliers prefer to sell it in a 55 gallon or larger putup. 15 gal is also available for reasonable money. But when the distributors have to package in smaller quantities, the administrative overhead adds considerably to the price. I really havent found anybody out there who wants to supply it in smaller packages. But you can buy it reasonably cheap if you can handle larger containers of it. You also have to consider the shipping costs for this stuff. Funny, considering the high percentage of this material used in common soft drinks. Hey, come to think of it, why buy Phosphoric? Just use Coke or Pepsi, and you can get a nickel back for your bottle when the job is finished.

[Franz]

Pete I thought we quit doin that Coke on the rusty bumper crap back in the 70s. Trouble is, there's so many young kids on this board, they probly don't remember back when cars had chrome bumpers.
BTW, is there a convenient dilution calculator on the internet that you know of, I'm gettin a little tired of whippin out the old slide rule (let the kids try to figure what that is) to do these calculations.

[Paychk]

Originally posted by Franz
I'm gettin a little tired of whippin out the old slide rule (let the kids try to figure what that is) to do these calculations.

[widetrackman]

Originally posted by Franz
Pete I thought we quit doin that Coke on the rusty bumper crap back in the 70s. Trouble is, there's so many young kids on this board, they probly don't remember back when cars had chrome bumpers.
BTW, is there a convenient dilution calculator on the internet that you know of, I'm gettin a little tired of whippin out the old slide rule (let the kids try to figure what that is) to do these calculations.

****, Franz you know what a slip-stick is. ****, I still use my Post or K&E When my memory goes & I loose that little box w/ all them buttons

[Crithpy_Critter]

concentration(i) x volume(i)= concentration(f) x volume(f)

i = initial and f = final

[widetrackman]

Originally posted by Crithpy_Critter
concentration(i) x volume(i)= concentration(f) x volume(f)

i = initial and f = final

Man, I neen a interpeter, guess this is aljabar Could you help, 16 oz of 75% will yeild how many oz of final product (6% sotution)? Thanks

[Franz]

**** Widetrack, just take 2 gallon milk jugs full of water, pour them in a bucket (plastic) and add 1 pint of 75% acid. That should all add up to 272 ounces of solution give or take how much ya spill, and it'll be close enough to 6% for rust conversion.
I get to thinkin of all these fancy cypherin formulas, I get laughin about the question my wife wrote on a test about how much Chlorox you needed to add to a gallon of water to acheive proper concentration for sanitization purposes. This test was for medical professionals, and was multiple choice. She got more *****in about that question than the rest of the 100 questions on the dang test cause they hadda do some math.

[Guest]

Originally posted by Franz
**** Widetrack, just take 2 gallon milk jugs full of water, pour them in a bucket (plastic) and add 1 pint of 75% acid. That should all add up to 272 ounces of solution give or take how much ya spill, and it'll be close enough to 6% for rust conversion.
I get to thinkin of all these fancy cypherin formulas, I get laughin about the question my wife wrote on a test about how much Chlorox you needed to add to a gallon of water to acheive proper concentration for sanitization purposes. This test was for medical professionals, and was multiple choice. She got more *****in about that question than the rest of the 100 questions on the dang test cause they hadda do some math.

That's Dakins Solution, Franz....good stuff....make it at home....show this to your wiff.
We use it in our kennel for disifecting.

http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/osuhosp/patedu/Materials/PDFDocs/procedure/how-to/dakins.pdf