Tree Snipper

[RCH]

I'm a newby with an old Lincoln 230V buzz box that I got at a farm auction for $35 and a new Lincoln Power MIG 200. Here is a recent creation to snip off 3-4" trees that are planted to close.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/247866-tree%20snip%20headon%20front.jpg

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/247867-tree%20snip%20finished%20sky%20view.jpg

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfil...ilt%20stop.jpg This show a stop I had to weld under the bottom pin so the snipper wouldn't rotate too far ( analagous to dumping the bucket) and pull the hydraulic lines apart.

I need something to cut 45 degree angles. For thin stock I brought a14" abrasive Milwaukee chop saw. This has been a big disappointment; the vise pivots in the middle so when you angle it to 45 degrees you have to unbolt it and set it up in a new bolt hole either forward or backward so the stock is under the wheel .
Makita makes a 12"carbide model LC1230 that is a favorite of those who are using steel stud in home construction
http://www.makita.com/Tools_Item_View.asp?id=210 The vise pivots for 45 degree cut right next to the blade plus a lever on the left side of the machine tightens the vise- no need to slide the vise assembly to a new location. Also I've seen carbide steel cutting blades on a "Skil" saw set up for a more free-handed approach

http://www.oceanmachinery.com/evolution_saw.htm

A band saw that will cut 45 degree angle AND wide enough to handle wider stock is $2500 http://www.ellissaw.com/bandsaws/bandsaws.html I saw a cheap chinese swivel head that is $400 but I doubt the quality.http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/pages...?&site=grizzly
I need some guidance re these tools, are there reasonable used machine available etc?

[Planet X]

The Grizzly bandsaws country of origin is Taiwan, and the 4x6 bandsaw has established a pretty big following in the home fabricator market due to the cost/capability ratio they have. I am currently using the swivel model pictured on your link. Personally I'd rather use a good hacksaw or torch than my chop saw on any cuts above a certain length (3") , the chop works great on re-bar or other cuts that are not over 1/2" wide surface exposed to abrasive blade.
Oh one thing I use Starret brand bandsaw blades exclusively and for projects like yours that cut tubing band-saws excell. Cut this 3x3 .250 square tube with a 4x6 bs. These saws will cut what the specs say they will and with some creative clamping maybe a skosh more.

[Sberry]

Good solid design work. Looks like something my electrican bud would build. There is only one minor addition I think I might add. On the middle view in the end of the tube about 4 inches I might add a stiffner plug as that gusset may tend to push the wall of the tubing in. It may also not too, just depending on the amount of stress over time. It looks like a great project.

[theshop]

I have been looking for a good used band saw and have not found much out there. With that I have decided to save my pennies and buy new. wellsaw make a model 58 that looks good.

I have also seen rollin-saw makes an all-purpose saw the 1459. it is on sale through j&l and msc maybe even enco.. I liked the rolli-specs the best as it looks like it can do many things.. dake also make a similar version called the work-a-matic.. the price is about the same. I plan to call around some of the local machine shops in the area and ask around about saws. again I know nothing about them.. How about out here any experience with any of the above.


thank in advace for all the feed back

Theshop

[RCH]

theshop, do youhave better links for the saws you mentioned i.e., rollin-saw 1459,dake; who is j&l and msc and enco
Like I said, I'm a newby.

I have also seen rollin-saw makes an all-purpose saw the 1459. it is on sale through j&l and msc maybe even enco.. I liked the rolli-specs the best as it looks like it can do many things.. dake also make a similar version called the work-a-matic..

[Guest]

Welcome to the forum, RCH. Very nice design on the tree chopper. As Sberry noted,I too, noticed that it would be better to have capped the ends of the rect. tubing to keep it from collapsing.

I have a Evolution 180 saw, and it is a life saver! It pays for itself, real quick! I did a search and found it for about $360 or so. Ocean Machinery is too expensive. It has all but replaced my cutting torch.

[RCH]

As they say flattery will get you everywhere
Here is what I see from the seat when the jaws are open

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/247869-tree%20snip%20flag-open.jpg

and when the jaws are closed

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/247872-tree%20snip%20flags-closed.jpg

Here are the brackets to hang the hydraulic spool on the right side of the operating platform.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/247884-tree%20snip%20hydraulic%20spool%20big.jpg

The throttle linkage was a work-around

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/247887-Tree%20snip%20vise%20grip%20on%20throttle.jpg

I appreciate the comments on the cutting tools.
For sure I'll beef up the ends of the main tube. A friend and professional weldor characterized some of the welds as" GORILLA WELDS

[Sberry]

You are a good fabricator, good design work. You might have your bud help with welding a little and dont be afraid to clean up some with grinder if you have to. Paint helps too. when you plate that tube cut it as a plug and put it up inside so that it is behind the gusset. It wont need much weld, just hold it in. Nip the bottom corners off so water dont collect behind it. Put it in so you can reach it to weld around it a little. I have a friend like you. His design work is so good that it makes up for a bit of the welding skills. But that will come and dont be scared to ask friends for a little help. It really speeds up learning curve.

[Farmer]

Bandsaws

I have an old Tiwanese 4x6 that has cut for many many hours on end and has never let me down. The company I bought it from still sells it plus a 45 degree swivel model for 425 Cdn $ about 250 $US.

https://www.busybeetools.ca

[Farmer]

Saws

My 4X6 is identical to the one in the Grizzily link for 199USA$, they have it at Busy bee for 299Cdn$. Setting them up to cut straight can take a bit of time but after that no problems.

[theshop]

Originally posted by RCH
theshop, do youhave better links for the saws you mentioned i.e., rollin-saw 1459,dake; who is j&l and msc and enco
Like I said, I'm a newby.

lets see if i do this right below are vendors that sell these things
to name only a few

http://www.mscdirect.com/

http://www.use-enco.com/

http://www.jlindustrial.com/

below is the link to the people that make the work-a-matic

http://www.dake-div-jsjcorp.com/

and as for roll-in saw they are only with the thomas register

http://www.thomasregional.com/IMG/IMGno/0001071093/95901/95901b.htm

both have sent me catalogues and where very nice on the phone.

i hope this helps..
theshop

oh www.hemsaw.com has one too.. they have demo you can watch on-line

[Hobart Expert Rock]

RCH.......WELCOME ABOARD MAN...........THE VICE GRIPS ARE A NICE TOUCH GIVES IT SOME CHARACTER............... I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CUT DOWN A TREE..........WHEN YOU DO THAT HOW ABOUT POSTING SOME "TIMBER PICTURES"..........THAT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT BABY IN OPERATION.............GORILLA WELDS I KINDA LIKE THAT DEFINATION...............HAVE SOME FUN NOW..........ROCK................................
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[FlashBlind]

What happens if the tree falls on the operator?
What about a small "push" bar about 2-3' above the cutting level, that would put forward pressure on the trunk before the cut begins.
This thread caught my eye, as I run a Ford 1310, best yard toy ever built. I'm thinking of making a brush/ branch lifter. Sort of like multiple (Smaller dia.) bale spikes, to mount to the bucket arms. All to lift and transport piles of cut down brush, instead of so many burn piles.
Great creation, keep posting pics of new ideas!

[rangerod]

Gorilla Welds

But have any of you guys encountered the dreaded SILVERBACK GORILLA WELDS in your welding adventures

[Hobart Expert Rock]

RANGEROD...........OH YES..........TRUE STORY...WHEN MY BROTHERS AND I WERE LEARNING TO WELD WE HAD THIS OLD STICK MACHINE..........HMMMMM RED I THINK.....ANYWAY WHEN I WELDED THEY ALL HOLLERED AND COMPLAINED SEEMS LIKE I WAS EITHER STICKING THE ROD OR LAYING DOWN SUCH A LARGE BIG WIDE WELD THEY JUST HAD A RIOT LAUGHING AT ME......... OF COURSE I WAS TO STUBBORN TO ASK MY DAD WHO WAS TEACHING US..........................BUT I LATER ASKED AND HE SHOWED ME.... SOMETHING ABOUT BEING HARD HEADED I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT..............SO YES I HAVE SEEN THE GORILLA SILVERBACK WELDS........... ... LAYED THEM DOWN MYSELF....................... ..........AND I'M NOT STUBBORN EITHER....................HAVE SOME FUN MAN.....................ROCK.... [email protected]