all in one?

[barh]

have seen a lot of talk on board about all in one machines. got me wanting one. any suggestions on entry level.heard something about one called an ESAB. does hobart have one out? dont want to skimp would rather buy a good one than to have to replace later because its to light or something. Thanks Darryll

[Scott V]

Esab mutimaster 260

barh,The Esab mutimaster 260 is almost a all in one.It doesn't have ac tig though.It is a very good stick,mig,mig pulse,tig lift arc machine.The best thing to buy for a option with that machine is the indutance control kit .It will make it weld as nice as their standard migmaster 250.It really is a good value.I probally would of bought one over my lincoln if the Lincoln didnt have that great python gun setup.Plus the Lincoln has a few more options for welding aluminum.I know the multimaster 260 can weld .023 wire better than the lincoln,but so could a harbor freight chicago unit.
It is a very nice machine.

[barh]

thanx scott i'll check one out.Darryll

[Hobart Expert Rock]

HI BARTH..............I HAVE A TIGWAVE 250 WITH A VOLTAGE SENSING FEEDER ON MINE..........THIS IS AN AC/DC TIG/STICK MACHINE..........THE FEEDER IS CONSTANT CURRENT/CONSTANT VOLTAGE....................AH WHAT A COMBINATION AND IT IS SINGLE PHASE..............THE EQUIVALENT IN THE MILLER LINE WOULD BE THE SYNCROWAVE AC/DC STICK/TIG WITH A VOLTAGE SENSING FEEDER ON IT (3045FC/ 8VS/12VS/ OR S32P).....THESE FEEDERS ARE CONSTANT CURRENT/CONSTANT VOLTAGE.............PORTABLE AND MOVEABLE OUT OF THE WAY WHEN NOT IN USE..........HEY YOUR CALL YOUR DOLLARS..........................ENJOY YOUR DECISION..............,..........................H AVE SOME FUN WITH IT..........ROCK............... .........[email protected]

[barh]

Thanks Rock. turned out to be tougher than i thought to find one .went to local miller dealer in grand rapids and asked about syncrowave and voltage sensor. This turned out to be way more trouble than i was up for .THEY THOUGHT I WAS BONKERS! never heard of such a thing and if they found what i wanted WHAT IN THE H-----CK WOULD I WANT IT FOR. guess ill find a new dealer. try again tomorrow.Thanks Darryll

[Roger]

Here is link to wire feeders at Miller's web site. They are for comercial welders so a little expensive. Can buy used wirefeeders from ebay. Voltage sensing wire feeders are used with Constant Current welders as used for stick and TIG welding. V sensing wire feed speed changes as voltage changes. They are harder to use than constant speed wirefeeder used with constant voltage MIG welder. Think V sensing feeder works better in spray transfer mode and not so great in short circuit transfer mode because voltage changes more in that mode.

http://www.millerwelds.com/main/products/wire_feeders/

They are also in Millers catalog which dealer should give you. Can order catalog on line at millerwelds.com.

[Mark Whiddon]

Hey Roger,
Don't worry about your dealer not knowing about certain things. I have a dealer down here that I asked about mig gas in Ar50/C50 and they told me there is no such beast and it ONLY comes in C25. (seems to me if they can mix c25 they could mix c50-ar50).This is the same salesman that had to go ask someone about welding wire. This was after two of the most knowledgable guys on this board told me to look into this gas. Your best offense is to find out what you want ,and go talk to someone (if they think you are crazy who cares). You maynot be able to see a machine if it is not the most common set up, but I have found that most of the people at these dealerships are salesmen and NOT welders. I do not mean to step on anybodies toes here. What I have found is talk to these guys on the board and use their opinions and don't let a salesman talk you into something THEY think you need instead of something you want. It is a bit disheartening when you go to a dealer hoping for advice and they know only what the brochure says or what somebody, somewhere has told them. Unfortunately that is happening in ALL areas, not just welding supplies.