C-4015 Roughneck on MM251

[Aaron]

Question for all you wise, all-knowing welding gurus:

Can I use the Miller Roughneck C4015 400A gun with my MM251? If so, what modifications are necessary?

I assume there are differences in consummables. Is this correct?

Or would I be better off just getting a M-40 gun, which I understand to use the same consummables as the M-25 I have now?

I just want a gun that isn't going to melt down under heavy use.

[Gary Patton]

Aaron, We sell Miller at the store I work in, and when most people look at the new Roughneck gun, they usually think it's too big and Bulky. The parts are a little higher priced, but then again, they are heavy duty. I only have one customer that has one, and I haven't seen him for some time now. As far as the M-40 gun is concerned, I have no experience with it, but I see it takes the same consumables as the M-25 gun your machine came with. I, myself, have had good luck with the M-25. Also, a Tweco Spray-Master with a Miller rear-end will run just under $200, and you may like it better.

[Scott V]

Aaron,have you tried Bobs out?It is a oxo gun,and it hooks right up.I compared it to the M-25,and it is really only a little bigger.It is much nicer than a M-25.

[Hobart Expert Rock]

AARON........straight hook up...............no modifications........... Enjoy..............hey what is your first project going to be..........

See ya.....................Rock..
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[Aaron]

Originally posted by Scott V
Aaron,have you tried Bobs out?It is a oxo gun,and it hooks right up.I compared it to the M-25,and it is really only a little bigger.It is much nicer than a M-25.

I have not had a chance to get up to Bob's place in a while, but I understand he's switched to the Roughneck gun.

I didn't think it was that much bulkier, but it's been a while since I've seen it. I have a line on one, but the M-40 would be nice as it uses the same consumables. I just got off the phone with my rep, and I'd be in for about $350 for a 12' M-40. Ouch. I think I can get a better price on a Roughneck.

I was running aluminum and stainless in spray last night, just trying things out, and I found that the M-25 gets pretty hot quick. I can't see running spray on the factory gun.

[Scott V]

Aaron,not to rub it in too much,but Bob's brand new gun was $75.00! I not only get deals on Esabs,you know.

[Aaron]

I'll paypal you the money today for that price!

If I remember, it was a "one of a kind" deal.

[Scott V]

Aaron,at the time they had three of them.I never thought I would know three people with 251 Millermatics!!! Besides those guns only fit Miller feeders,and I was looking for Tweeco which fit (Esab,Lincoln,Thermal-arc)Tell me what is wrong with that picture?

[Aaron]

Sounds like you have the wrong welders....

[Scott V]

Aaron,include my Hobart feeder in the list also.

[Aaron]

What would a reasonable price be for the Roughneck 400A 15' (C-4015) be if someone found it on an internet auction site, like maybe eBay?

[Hobart Expert Rock]

SCOTTV...............We have Tweco no.2,3.4,5 adapters.....also a machine adapter kit 199664 to fit ln-7,ln8,ln9,ln22,ln25,ln742....

will fit the roughneck gun...............for the folks with red...........................Enjoy the site.........Rock..
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199663 Will allow you to put the roughneck gun onto the old 2000 series feeder you have.............In stock at Miller Electric...........See ya..........................Rock..
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[Aaron]

Hey Rock, need any testing done on a high-amperage MIG gun?

[Scott V]

Rock I have a Tweeco to Miller adpapter myself.You never know?
Aaron,I think I have a Extra Bernard 350 amp gun you can have.It only needs the two pin plug.I check it out if you want it.I think it's 12 ft if I remember?

[Hobart Expert Rock]

HI AARON.............Na if I did I would shoot you one..........But they've been out for awhile....................Be safe...........Rock..
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