New member and more tig questions?sorry!Help

[DEA]

I finally got activated and get to ask some stupid questions
First off I think this is the coolest site since I found www.ktmtalk.com(just got back into riding again).There's a lot of good information and honest opinions to be found here and are more than willing to help out.The nonwelding people like me.I've done some gobbing and have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express several times
Thanks to all.
Like a lot of others I'm wanting to get into tig welding.There's just something intriguing about it.I've always fooled with motorcycles,cars etc.So I'll be doing aluminum,stainless and cast and tubing later
Here's what I'm look at to put in my garage.I'll have to run the power to it for the welder.Depending on the choice
I'm looking at a Esab 350 w/tourch,cooler etc. it all works $900.00 about a 1996 model it's a big unit! Will it use a lot of eletric even staying in the lower amp side (200 and under)
A syncrowave 250 tig runner w/tourch,cooler ect. $1400.00 maybe less.I think a 1999 or 2000 model.
Has much changed from it to the new models and power consumption?
New sd 180
Dynasty 200 dx sound nice.I would to have a miller. But,Thats a lot of money
And the Thermal Arc 185.Thats saving a lot of money.It's got some really good reviews here!Is the biggest downfall compared to the dx 200 not being able to use 110v? I'm sure the portability would be nice for the inverters
Is there a lot of demand in the medical and resturant field,race track(not on frames for a while)? Is this where the inverters come in or not?
The Esab seems like a good deal. It and the 250 will come with used warranty(welding shop)
What do you guys think.
I'm leaning towards the T/A 185 even though it's about $800.00 more than the Esab.I'd like to have a Dynasty,Thats a lot of money
The Miller road show is in Lexington Ky. Nov. the 5th. Hope to check it out.
Thanks
Doug

[DrIQ]

I have looked at the Dynasty and 185TSW. I admit the 115V operation looked good until I looked at the weld output on 115V.
The output on the lower input voltage is limited to where it would be usable for DC welding on mild steel and stainless steel but to low to weld more than 1/16 thick alu. The 185TSW doesn't offer the 115V input and is limited to 230V but is lower in cost.

The standard square wave machines run on 230V input but require a 100 amp. service to run in the upper range (250amps) while the inverters will run on a standard 230V range service at their rated output.

I am in the process of selling my 350 amp tig machine and replacing it with a 185TSW because of portability and the fact that in most cases if the aluminum is over 1/8" I mig weld it.

[Hobart Expert Rock]

DEA................WELCOME ABOARD...........Do this head over to the road show and set down with the syncrowave, dynasty, all the tig machines they have.............Compare them then head off to the competitors and use theirs.............In reality only you can decide after all it is your hard earned cash..............

Once you've made up your mind tell us why you chose what you did...............all input is good.......................Everyone always like to know why.............Enjoy the site and the road show.........Rock..
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[DEA]

Thanks for the replies.
I hope to make it to Lexington tomorrow.
I would love to have the dynasty but i really don't think I can spend that amount of money just starting out. Unless it's an offer I can't refuse Like real close to the Thermal arc(few hundred$$)
But I have over stepped my spending's before!
Just in case what do you guys think of the Esab and Syncro 250 I mentioned ealier
Thanks again
Doug

[motordoctor]

Hey Rock: You have a schedule for the Miller road show? When's it coming thru SoCal?

[Hobart Expert Rock]

MOTORDOCTOR.........I haven't seen the schedule for next year yet.............However I have forwarded your question of to the BBT driver (Kurt).......... I asked him to answer this one.........

I think he is back now.................

Enjoy the site......................Rock..
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[KURT]

Hi motordoctor,
right now is just a bit to soon to give you any kind of answer other than next year. Boy thats alot of help, ain't it!
This is the way it usually goes, we start out in Feb and we head for the warm country, so we head south and then start making our way around the country.
Still not alot of help but it's the best I can offer at this time. Keep us in mind and feel free to keep asking now and then and as the year starts up I'll be able to give you a better idea.

Or if you like give me a e-mail at [email protected] that will get my attention sooner.
Sorry to say I don't get into this site as much as I would like to, but I do have buddy pal Rock to give me a kick when something comes up!

Thanks for useing the site and have fun!

[KURT]

Hey DEA,
did you get out to the BBT and check out the equipment?

Rock was right, oh boy did you hear that, yea that inflating sound! There goes Rock's head, but yea get out and check the equipment over and weld with it, your the one looking to buy. Make sure it welds for you.

Dynasty is a sweet set-up thats for sure, small and light weight.
The 250 is nice also and if you are just going to put it in the shop and don't intend on moveing it around a whole lot it will be great. 1400 doesn't sound like a bad price.



P.S One more thing I just want to throw out the for one and all is there are 3 other drivers on the truck, their is Bob who has been on the truck the longest, then their is Roger the next in the line, and then Tom, myself I'm actually the youngest and only been on the truck for 2 yrs.
So when and if you all get out to the truck say Hi, I've already had the pleasure of meeting a few of you!

[Guest]

Say, Kurt. I'd like to add my voice to Motordoc's and would like to see your truck in San Diego. I'm on the verge of purchasing a big TIG and am wavering between the inverter and the Syncro. How about just grabbin' the wheel and hijacking the Big Blue and comin out here anyway...I'll buy you the best burrito ya ever had!...and bring ROCK with ya! I'll get him a genuwine TiaJuana taco!

[KURT]

ROCKY D,
It started to sound real tempting, but would I really have to bring the ROCK, when we get together it's nothing but a real pain in my gut.(laughing) : Probably end up in the ditch!

[Hobart Expert Rock]

YEP...........I know we would end up in the ditch.........We have a hard time trying to get the boat out of the water because were laughing so hard............WE wreck that baby and we might be in trouble..........or hurt ourselves...............

.......and you should see this fishing hat KURT wears..... hahaha...............Laurence of arabia style........only thing missing is the part across the face where you can only see his eye's..........

hmmmmmm.........maybe I should get me one..........Seems like he out fish's me everytime..............

That reminds me of a story when Kurt and Mikeg were fishing........ hahaha we ....., well another time on that one........... When Mikeg told the story I thought I was going to fall in the water I was laughing so hard...........

Have some fun now.......................Rock..
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[greginfinity]

Well if you guys do end up in a ditch, I call dibs on a "damaged" dynasty... Do you sell any of the demo equipment?

[Hobart Expert Rock]

greginfinity.............We currently have 3 Dynasty's in reconditioned equipment...........(2) 300's and one 200......... Check with your local distributor though..............They are the only one's who can purchase for you...........................

Have them call sales and ask about Reconditioned Stock..

Good Question............................Rock..
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[Hobart Expert Rock]

ROCKYD........ I wish I had a dollar for everytime I was in TJ eating that stuff.............Well I was stationed at Milmar.........When your in the Military you ain't got much money...............

hahaha.....and when I worked with Ian at Powcon...........boom was just down the street from there (Milmar).........

Do you think I'm being called back there again................

If I ever get there I'll let you know.............We'll hook up and see what is left of TJ.............Cassimus one of our premier service centers is there Glenn and I go way back bet we could talk him into going also.............and Hubbard repair also in town could be talked into going also I am sure..........Round up Ian and we would have some fun then wouldn't we.............It would be fun just to set there and talk about business.............Sue from the warehouse I'll bet would also go.............

Wow I'm starting to miss the place.................Californiaaaaaa....

See ya...........................Rock..

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[KURT]

Hey Rock,
let me fill in the guys just for the humor side of things.
Mike G and myself went out ice fishin and we were catching some crappies, well I take that back Mike was catching some crappies and I had my yellow lab along,seemed no matter where I went that dog had to be there. I'm sure some of you know how that story goes. The day progressed and my tactics didn't seem to be working no matter what I tried, Mike caught fish and me nothing.
There happened to be a guy fishin 60 yards away from us and he had fish layin on the ice by him also, then all of a sudden out of the blue my dog comes up from behind me and at my feet drops a crappie down and looks up at me with her ears perked!
Well I couldn't say much but my fishin buddy had all kinds of remarks and I'll admit I'm still luaghing about that one

When things are tough even the dog had to kick me when I was having bad luck. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA