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  • #16
    Dan,
    You used to be right, in the last few years the price of true dc clamp-on ameters has really come down. 10 years ago I purchased a clamp-on Fluke adapter to measure DC current. Cost $280. It uses a hall-effect transistor technology to measure electron flow. Its not as accurate as the one Aaron bought, but it was all that was available at the time.
    It's not an optical illusion...it just looks like one

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    • #17
      Thanks guys. Looks like I really need to up date my electrical knowledge doesn t it. A clamp on amp meter is definately a much easier approach then what I assumed I was going to have to do. Hopefully my ignorance to this newer technology benefits others too.

      Aaron, it looks like I owe you a free welding lesson now.
      Last edited by Dan; 08-19-2003, 03:15 PM.
      MigMaster 250- Smooth arc with a good touch of softness to it. Good weld puddle wetout. Light spatter producer.
      Ironman 230 - Soft arc with a touch of agressiveness to it. Very good weld puddle wet out. Light spatter producer.


      PM 180C



      HH 125 EZ - impressive little fluxcore only unit

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      • #18
        Aaron , does this meter have the hold feature? also do you just clamp it anywhere over the gun cable? thanks again

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        • #19
          Aaron,

          Is it autoranging? I don't see it mentioned in the spec. It says it comes with a thermocouple adapter. Do you have to buy a separate temerature probe or is it included? I don't see it pictured.

          Thanks.

          Dave
          "Some days you're the dog, some days you're the fire hydrant"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Dave Haak
            Aaron,

            Is it autoranging? I don't see it mentioned in the spec. It says it comes with a thermocouple adapter. Do you have to buy a separate temerature probe or is it included? I don't see it pictured.

            Thanks.

            Dave
            Thermocouple probe included.

            AC DC clamp amp meters use hall effect sensor that measures magnetic field strenth. A Hall Effect sensor uses a semiconductor material through which a constant voltage source forces a constant bias current to flow. If the biased Hall sensor is placed in a magnetic field oriented at right angles to the Hall current, the voltage output varies in direct proportion to the strength of the magnetic field.



            Last edited by Guest; 08-20-2003, 06:44 AM.

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            • #21
              Roger,

              Thanks. I stumbled through the link. A little over my head. Is the bottom line that by using the "Hall Effect", it is autoranging?

              Thanks.

              Dave
              "Some days you're the dog, some days you're the fire hydrant"

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              • #22
                I think I'll get one, you can never have too many tools!
                It's not an optical illusion...it just looks like one

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                • #23
                  Hall effect sensor makes it AC/DC clamp on meter.

                  AC clamp on meters have coil of wire that is held close to wire carrying the AC electricity you want to measure. The AC causes a magnetic field around the wire that changes 120 times a second which induces propotional electrical current in the coil that is measured by the meter.

                  Autoranging is different feature. So easy to do with digital meter should be included as costs more for extra switch or jacks for manual ranges.

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                  • #24
                    Aaron & Roger,

                    Thanks.

                    Dave
                    "Some days you're the dog, some days you're the fire hydrant"

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                    • #25
                      I have a Fluke clamp on probe that will work on AC or DC. It plugs into a DVM. One millivolt equals one amp.
                      What do I know I am just an electronics technician.

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