Hey ROCK

[Dan]

ROCK

Could you please see if Galen or someone else could get Bob (deere_x475guy) some starting spray transfer settings with a 98% argon/ 2% oxy gas and .035 E70S-6 for his new MM 251. Rough settings for 3/16", 1/4", and 3/8" would probably help him out quite a bit. If I had the machine I d do it for him, but since you folks at Miller won t send me one to try I can t do it. So, could you please see if someone can help him out with this?

[deere_x475guy]

Thanks Dan...man that would be great. It sure would save me alot of waste trying to figure out if I am spraying or not and what I am doing with the settings....Thanks Rock...

Bob

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Originally posted by deere_x475guy
Thanks Dan...man that would be great. It sure would save me alot of waste trying to figure out if I am spraying or not and what I am doing with the settings....Thanks Rock...

Bob

Bob, let me give you some starting points from Miller's slide rule calculator:

3/16" 24-35v./180-190amp/360-380 wire speed

1/4" 24-25v/200-210amp/400-420wire speed

3/8"26-27v/300amp/375 wire speed

All the above with 98/2. .035 wire for 3/16" & 1/4", .045 for 3/8"

Hope this helps

[deere_x475guy]

Dang..you know I bet thats on mine also. I forgot they had the spary transfer params on that. Guess I better get it out....thanks

[Hobart Expert Rock]

DAN OR BOB IF YOU STILL NEED THAT INFORMATION I CAN GET IT FROM GALEN.......... BUT LET ME INTRODUCE ANOTHER SECRET AGENT HIS NAME IS GARY AND HE WORKS IN THE SAME AREA AS GALEN AND WILL BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS WELL........ ANOTHER SECRET AGENT REVEALED..........AND YOU THOUGHT THERE WERE ONLY 3 OR 4 OF US..........HAHAHA.......... ...ROCK
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[deere_x475guy]

Thanks Rock. I forgot that the paramaters on on the slide scale that came with my student package I ordered. BTW I recieved my free denim jacket already. It's great, I like the pockets in side the jacket. I am actually thinking about ordering another set of books for keeping inside the house and then getting another Jacket with the reciept from the new MM251. I did notice the slide scale doesn't recommend using .030 wire for doing spray transfer on 1/8 inch and over.

[Dan]

Originally posted by deere_x475guy
Thanks Rock. I forgot that the paramaters on on the slide scale that came with my student package I ordered. BTW I recieved my free denim jacket already. It's great, I like the pockets in side the jacket. I am actually thinking about ordering another set of books for keeping inside the house and then getting another Jacket with the reciept from the new MM251. I did notice the slide scale doesn't recommend using .030 wire for doing spray transfer on 1/8 inch and over.

Bob

If You look in the back of your Miller GMAW book you will see that the spray arc range for an .030 wire is 135 to 230 amps. .030 wire will spray up to 1/4" material with out any problem. However, with your MM 251 there is no reason to be using an .030 wire for spray you have more than enough power for an .035 wire.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Hobart Expert Rock
DAN OR BOB IF YOU STILL NEED THAT INFORMATION I CAN GET IT FROM GALEN.......... BUT LET ME INTRODUCE ANOTHER SECRET AGENT HIS NAME IS GARY AND HE WORKS IN THE SAME AREA AS GALEN AND WILL BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS WELL........ ANOTHER SECRET AGENT REVEALED..........AND YOU THOUGHT THERE WERE ONLY 3 OR 4 OF US..........HAHAHA.......... ...ROCK
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Rock

I personally would like to see the settings, because if I keep reading all this positive input on the MM 251, I just might take the plunge myself and get a MM 251 toward the end of this year. I wouldn t get rid of my MM 210 though because it is just to good to part with. My CK 175 would be sacraficed though.

[Hobart Expert Rock]

HANDLED I WILL E-MAIL BOTH GARY AND GALEN...........ROCK...
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Originally posted by Dan


Rock

I personally would like to see the settings, because if I keep reading all this positive input on the MM 251, I just might take the plunge myself and get a MM 251 toward the end of this year. I wouldn t get rid of my MM 210 though because it is just to good to part with. My CK 175 would be sacraficed though.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but welders are like rifle barrels and fingerprints; no two are alike. Shouldn't the settings in the calculator and/or the owner's manual be close enough? I don't remeber if the settings on the machine are schort arc/spray or only short arc.

[deere_x475guy]

Originally posted by Dan


Bob

If You look in the back of your Miller GMAW book you will see that the spray arc range for an .030 wire is 135 to 230 amps. .030 wire will spray up to 1/4" material with out any problem. However, with your MM 251 there is no reason to be using an .030 wire for spray you have more than enough power for an .035 wire.

Thanks Dan, that's what I was thinking also. This thing does such a good job at running the .035 wire on 16 guage that I don't really see a need for running .030. I have some 22 guage stuff laying around. Maybe I should try the .035 on it also. I guess if I need to I can get a 2lb spool of .030 for this if the .035 doesn't lay well on it.

Bob

[Hobart Expert Rock]

BOB AND DAN.........IF YOU CALL MILLER ELECTRIC LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AT 920-831-4860 AND ASK TO SPEAK TO GARY THE WELDING TECHNICAN HE CAN HELP.............HAHAHA...... HE'S GOING TO GET SIGNED UP LATER ON NEXT WEEK AFTER THE CHANGES TO THIS SITE..............ROCK................
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