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  • I'm about to buy a Mig welder HH-135 or HH-175 ?

    Hello All,
    I'm looking to buy a Hobart Mig 135 or 175. i'm set up at my shop for 110 & 220v . but i would like to know the advantages of the 175 over the 135.
    Thanks,
    Bobbylee.

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    Re: I'm about to buy a Mig welder HH-135 or HH-175 ?

    Originally posted by Bobbylee
    Hello All,
    I'm looking to buy a Hobart Mig 135 or 175. i'm set up at my shop for 110 & 220v . but i would like to know the advantages of the 175 over the 135.
    Thanks,
    Bobbylee.
    Bobbylee,

    The major advantages of the HH 175 over the HH 135 are that the HH 175 will make much sounder welds on 3/16" and thicker then a HH 135. The HH 135 can be used to weld 3/16" material with a self shielded fluxcore wire, but the strength of this joint would not match what you could acheive with the HH 175 using the same self shielded fluxcore wire. Personally I wouldn t put a heavy load on the HH 135 joint, but I would have no problem applying a heavy load to the joint welded with the HH 175. The reason for the stronger joint with the HH 175 is because you would be welding the joint with the HH 135 at about 135 amps where as with the HH 175 you will be some where around 150 to 160 amps. The higher amperage setting amounts to a weld that has a better bond with basemetal.

    Also, on the same 3/16" with the HH 175 you could use a solid wire and shielding gas and produce a sound weld. Where as with the HH 135 the maximum recommended thickness to weld with a HH 135 is an 1/8".

    And Finally, in the same current range, the HH 175 has a much better duty cycle then the HH 135.

    The simpliest way to look at these two machines is if you want a machine mainly for sheetmetal then the HH 135 is the machine, but if you want a machine for sheetmetal and some light metal fabrication then the HH 175 is the better machine.
    Last edited by Dan; 03-29-2003, 04:06 AM.
    MigMaster 250- Smooth arc with a good touch of softness to it. Good weld puddle wetout. Light spatter producer.
    Ironman 230 - Soft arc with a touch of agressiveness to it. Very good weld puddle wet out. Light spatter producer.


    PM 180C



    HH 125 EZ - impressive little fluxcore only unit

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    • #3
      Hello Bobbylee, Im not familiar with either of these units. But I would definitely buy a 220V unit this way you will have most likely all the power you will need in your welding projects.

      Good luck I,m sure you will get more feed back shortly
      Jerry Streets
      J P Streets Welding LLC

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      • #4
        240 volt machine,and don't look back.

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        • #5
          I own the HH135, and it has been fine for my needs. 120v vs 220v was a big driver for me. Since you have 220v available you should go with the heavier machine.
          Not sure, but one possible drawback would be not being able to turn it down enough for thin sheet metal. Recommended alternative would still be a 220v machine, but with continuous voltage variation, maybe a miller.
          Bob

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          • #6
            Thanks All,
            I'm heading down to the local welding shops today to buy the HH-175. i'll let you all know the out come.
            Thanks Again,
            Bobbylee.

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            • #7
              Bobby, where do you live? I am considering selling my 4 month old MM175 and moving up to the 210 or 251. I am in Lansing MI.

              Bob
              Short Term Memory GONE!!
              Hobby Weldor/Machinist
              Photobucket Shop Pics

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              • #8
                deere_x475guy,
                I live near Sacramento, Ca.

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                • #9
                  Well,
                  none of my local welding shops had a HH-175 in stock. but one shop said he could have 1 for me by Wed. and he would let me have it for $512.99 he did have a HH-135 for $399.99 but i'm waiting for the HH-175.
                  Thanks,
                  Bobbylee.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bobbylee
                    Well,
                    none of my local welding shops had a HH-175 in stock. but one shop said he could have 1 for me by Wed. and he would let me have it for $512.99 he did have a HH-135 for $399.99 but i'm waiting for the HH-175.
                    Thanks,
                    Bobbylee.
                    Bobbylee

                    512.99 is a very good price for a HH 175. I paid $530 for mine 2 yrs ago. Are you going to run the self shielded fluxcore wire at first or are going to get a bottle of gas too? Oh yeah good idea on being patient and waiting for the HH 175. A few more days of waiting might drive you a little crazy but once you get the HH 175 you won t be disappointed that you waited. Remember the HH 175 will weld the thin material that the HH 135 is designed for and then allow you to weld the thicker material that the HH 135 isn t designed for. A HH 175 should have no problem multipass welding 3/8" with the proper self shielded fluxcore wire. So, hang in there Wed. is only a few days away.
                    MigMaster 250- Smooth arc with a good touch of softness to it. Good weld puddle wetout. Light spatter producer.
                    Ironman 230 - Soft arc with a touch of agressiveness to it. Very good weld puddle wet out. Light spatter producer.


                    PM 180C



                    HH 125 EZ - impressive little fluxcore only unit

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                    • #11
                      BOBBY LEE..........WELCOME ABOARD AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR CHOICE........... WHEN YOU GET IT TO YOUR HOUSE WEDNESDAY LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.............. HOPE YOU HAD FUN WITH YOUR DECISION MAKEING.....................ENJOY........ ROCK........[email protected]

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                      • #12
                        I'd get the 175 and 512 is a great price ! ... I paid $575 shipped to my door for mine. good luck.

                        - jack

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                        • #13
                          Dan,
                          I will be getting a complete set up, HH-175 , 100cu gas bottle with gas, 1 spool of flux cored and 1 spool of solid wire and a nice pair of tip pliers for an out the door price of $738. i will be using gas for the most of all because of the clean welds and welding autobody sheetmetal. i may have to wait until Saturday to play with it. so i'll post back when i get a chance to see just how it performs.
                          Thanks to all,
                          Bobbylee.

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                          • #14
                            Bobbylee,

                            If you can, I would sure like to see some autobody welding pictures. Once, of course, you get time to practice with the new machine.

                            I am painfully delayed on my '73 Super Beetle sheet metal project by Harbor Freight's back order of a sheet metal punch. I have lots of metal cut and formed and ready for using a backing plate techinque, but no punch.

                            Happy new toy ... ah necessary machine.
                            Bob

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