???? Hypertherm makes Miller 375????

[deere_x475guy]

Steve, thanks anyway.

[Steve W]

deere_x475guy i would say if you can get the bigger one you will be alot happier with it. As far as Hypertherm or Miller, I would say go with the one you can get the best and most efficient support on.
You will probally be pleased with either one. I also went thru my manuel to my Hypertherm 380 and thier is no schmatics on the machine. It's on the inside of the cover. That would be hard to scan good luck

[deere_x475guy]

Originally posted by russell
Bob
I know what you are going thru..I went thru pretty much the same thing last Aug. ...I bought the Spectrum 2050..more than I need now but I am ready for thick if and when the need arises. I have`nt had a moments trouble with mine and the consumables last longer than I thought they would..really pleased with unit. Unless you are gonna use yours every day..I wouldnt worry about consumable cost.
Main thing I wanted to say is buy the biggest you can afford..its cheaper than upgrading later...I speak from experience on that. Even if you don`t have all the amps to run it wide open..the capability is there when you need it.
Another thing which I`m guessing on is that a big machine run at low amps will last longer than a small machine run wide open all the time.
Just my thoughts on it...

russell

Russell, sorry I missed your post earlier. I think you and Scott are both probably right on this one. I should get bigger than I need and just cut at half power till I get the wiring changed.

I appreciate your input on this. I hope I haven't missed anyone that gave a response. Thanks all
Bob

[deere_x475guy]

HI Scott, actually I was thinking more about that today. The smaller units will cut 3/8 just fine. However the ipm rate is very slow. Where as with the bigger unit I can double that speed. I think it will be easier to cut faster rather than slower. Just for grins I laid out 12 inches on a board and tried to pace a 1 minute 10 inch cut. Then I tried it at 25 ipm. It was much easier to do. If I do go with the smaller one it will be a matter of me learning to pace myself and getting use to it

Thanks
Bob

[Scott V]

Bob,you will be way more happy with the 625,if you ever decide to cut alumimum.With a bigger tank a small emglo compressor will run a plasma.Also if you compressor is big enough to hold some air let it run to ether keep the surge down,or wait till it clicks off to use the plasma at full output.You cun also use clean compressed air bottle from a welding store.Go as big as you can afford,because when or if you cut some .0120 aluminum with the 27 amp machine you are not going to like the cut edge.It is night,and day between 27,and 40 amps in the way it cuts aluminum.I wish I had a camera to show you.One looks like you took a axe to it,and the other looks like you used a laser.

[russell]

Bob
I know what you are going thru..I went thru pretty much the same thing last Aug. ...I bought the Spectrum 2050..more than I need now but I am ready for thick if and when the need arises. I have`nt had a moments trouble with mine and the consumables last longer than I thought they would..really pleased with unit. Unless you are gonna use yours every day..I wouldnt worry about consumable cost.
Main thing I wanted to say is buy the biggest you can afford..its cheaper than upgrading later...I speak from experience on that. Even if you don`t have all the amps to run it wide open..the capability is there when you need it.
Another thing which I`m guessing on is that a big machine run at low amps will last longer than a small machine run wide open all the time.
Just my thoughts on it...

russell

[deere_x475guy]

Originally posted by Scott V
Bob,I was just showing you where you will end up if you follow the path you have been on since you started your plasma thread.

Scott, this has been a learning experience for me that for sure. And I am sure I am not done yet. I have some more research to do. I am torn between the 375 or the 625. Currently I do not have the necessary amp supplied to my shop to run the 625 at full current along with the air compressor. I can however use the 625 at lower amps till I get the service upgraded to the shop/garage. I do appreciate your input.

Thanks
Bob

[deere_x475guy]

Steve, thanks thats good information. I am concerned about using the stand off with the Hypertherm since they don't mention it anywhere in the manual. I hate to give a reason not to honor a warranty claim. Can you email me the wiring schematics?

Thanks
Bob

[Steve W]

deere_x475guy, I am very pleased with the cutter and the service from Hypertherm. I choosed it after Dan recommended it.
However I don't believe thiers much difference between the 380 and the 375 other than maybe price. To me it looks like both machines torches use the same consumables but I could be wrong. I can't see anything in the manuel about increasing metal thickness by using a standoff. I did order one of those roller standoff guides like the one on the cyberweld site. I had my Miller distributor order it thru Miller. It fit the torch perfect. I also orderd some things from this site www.hypermax.org/hyperparts.htm and was pleased with the service. This is the 1st plasma cutter I've owned. It would have been nice to get the next size bigger but this one will do anything I need. It also is 110v or 220. And on both the 375 and the 380 you cut off the 110v plug or at least I did and I put a 220volt plug on. When I get time I'll make a apt to use if I want to use it on a 110v.

[Scott V]

Bob,I was just showing you where you will end up if you follow the path you have been on since you started your plasma thread.

[deere_x475guy]

Steve. That would be great. I have the schematics for the Miller 375 that I got from the board. How do you like your 380. Does the manual say anything about using a stand off for increasing cut thickness like the Miller does?

Thanks.

Bob

[Steve W]

deere_x475guy, I have a hypertherm 380. I've had it since Dec. If you like I can scan some of schmatics out of the manuel and e-mail that too you. You can compare the two. Good luck

[deere_x475guy]

Scott, I appreciate the feedback but I just don't buy electronic stuff used that I don't know the past on. To much unknown for me. I guess I am just one of those difficult picky guys that dig till I am satisfied.

Thanks again

Bob

[Scott V]

Bob,I have had things cut on this model plasma with a cnc burn table.Just bid on it,and get it over.This one will do what you want for years to come.Of course it's three phase.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34099&item=2517966940&rd=1

Here is another one that I like,because I own it.Yes it is a Esab that some people bad mouth,but their companys,that they own invented plasma arc cutters.I bought mine for $1500.00 with a torch wrap.This one has been perfect in every way.Yes I have a Thermal,but I like the Esab the best of all of the ones out there. Watch this one,it will go for more than I paid for mine two years ago.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34099&item=2518372940&rd=1

[deere_x475guy]

Rock....I am wondering if the guy had it wrong backwards...hmmmm...is that possible. I always wondered why Miller did not compare the Hypertherm 380 to their 375 on the competive comparison sheet.

http://www.millerwelds.com/main/comparisons/spectrum375_cutmate_comparison/

Yet they mention the Hypertherm 600 in the comparison

http://www.millerwelds.com/main/comparisons/spectrum625_comparison/

I will give Scott a call tomorrow to see if what he was thinking.


Bob