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  • Al T.
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    Gun Update

    My new gun is on its way, their tech support called and knew exactly the gun I needed. They shipped it out right away and gave me a RGP# to return the wrong gun.

    My advice is to call them when ordering weld guns from them so you get the correct one first time. I found their home page a little vague on which gun is which. Keep in mind I'm new at this and thought I had picked the correct gun.

    I'll let you know when I get the gun.

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  • Guest
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    Originally posted by Al T.
    Update on my extra gun purchase,

    The gun I ordered was the M10/H10 compatible, I thought this was correct because the gun accessories kit from Cyberweld states its for M10 or H10 size guns. Wrong one. The plug in end is far too fat to fit in and the trigger connection was the twist on type instead of push on spade type. Picture attached.
    Hobart Handler measures, length is 2.14 inches and diameter is .469 inch

    I emailed welding-direct.com and within an hour they called me to straighten out my problem. They asked that I send a email with a picture of my plug with measurements. Thank God for email. I look forward to a speedy solution.

    Anyone recognize the plug on the left side?
    It looks alot like a Miller M-25, could'nt be sure, unless I tried it, tho, Al.

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  • Al T.
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    I guess I wasn't clear about my problem. I can change over to spade connectors easily as you said, but its the brass end of the mig hose/cable that is too big in diameter. Its .7 inches in diameter where the hole in the welder is .469 inches. I posted a picture a couple of replies back to show the size difference.

    I post again when I get it resolved.

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  • Roger
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    All they need to do is send correct connector with 2ea 6" wires sticking out from correct pins. You cut off or unplug old connector from trigger leads of new electrode cable. Then install spade connectors as required and join new plug with spade connectors covering with heat shrink tube to insulate spade connections.

    They might want old connector back.

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  • Al T.
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    Roger,
    It was my mistake, I ordered it from their internet site so they didn't know I had a HH175. They seem to be a friendly company and have great prices so I do not think I'll have a problem.
    Thanks

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  • Roger
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    Rock stated in November that HH MIGs and Millermatic Migs use almost the same gun that has different plugs. Welding dealer should have known that if informed it was for HH.

    When welding out of position it is arc force that pushes against puddle helping it defiy gravity. Think of it as steam or electrons carrying metal drops and pushing against puddle.

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  • Al T.
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    I wish it were that easy, but the diameter of the brass plug is way too big in diameter to fit the HH175. My welder requires a plug that is .469" in diameter.

    The new plug is closer to 5/8", it ain't go'na do it without a running start and some vasiline.

    Thanks for letting me know its a Miller plug.

    I'll keep you guys informed as things happen.

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  • dysfunction
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    Oh lemme know how this resolves. I was looking at their guns a while ago.

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  • dysfunction
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    Looks like the twist lock plug on my miller. The instructions with the gun say that if you have the connections like yours you cut the shielding, split the wires and put the terminals on

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  • Al T.
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    Update on my extra gun purchase,

    The gun I ordered was the M10/H10 compatible, I thought this was correct because the gun accessories kit from Cyberweld states its for M10 or H10 size guns. Wrong one. The plug in end is far too fat to fit in and the trigger connection was the twist on type instead of push on spade type. Picture attached.
    Hobart Handler measures, length is 2.14 inches and diameter is .469 inch

    I emailed welding-direct.com and within an hour they called me to straighten out my problem. They asked that I send a email with a picture of my plug with measurements. Thank God for email. I look forward to a speedy solution.

    Anyone recognize the plug on the left side?
    Last edited by Al T.; 12-03-2002, 10:34 AM.

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  • morpheus
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    ok. I remember Rock saying that now. good luck with it ... I sure hope it works

    - jack

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  • Al T.
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    Jack,

    Rock said it could be done. I just needed to use thicker wire .035 and the stiffer aluminum wire 5356. Also a Teflon liner is needed to help slide it along. TEFLON LINER NUMBER 194014 is the number I got from Rock. Finally it was advised to keep the cable as straight as possible while welding.

    Even after all these precautions I still might get jams. I will let you know how I make out.

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  • morpheus
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    cool.

    i didn't think you could push aluminum wire 10ft ?

    - jack

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  • Al T.
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    Be glad to Jack,

    After I ordered it, I noticed that it didn't say what size liner and tip came with it. I plan on changing it to teflon and .035 tip but I wanted to know anyway. I emailed them, 1 hour later they emailed me back, .030 liner and tip. Nice fast response!

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  • morpheus
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    hey Al, let me know how that gun works out on aluminum with your HH175 ... thanks.

    - jack

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