Metal dripping

[morpheus]

good idea about the handles Al, I keep having to push mine back on also. hadn't thought about gluing them on. I picked up a cheap pair of cutters too ... works ALOT better than those supposed mig pliers ...

- jack

[Roger]

I have set of MIG pliers that I have tried. Don't like the wire cutters and nozzel cleaner sucks. Ok to remove contact tips and nozzel.

I use old ****s bought long ago for electronics. They are Hunter simiflush side cutters that leave real clean cut. This link shows new version. But any good side cutter works ok.

http://www.huntertools.co.uk/catalog/im160020.htm

Here is better nozzel cleaner.

http://www.welding-direct.com/nozreamtool.html

But I just use a wire brush made for cleaning 1/2" copper tube as they are easy to find and cheap.

[Guest]

I picked up a pair like these MIG pliars, called Welper. They look like these here. I've used ****s all my life, untill I found that after a couple of hours of spray arcing, the nozzle would seize onto the gun...these Welpers were the only tool I had that could break it free. Mine cost about $30, and they do a good job, even the cutter.

http://www.welding-direct.com/welderspliers.html

[Al T.]

Rocky D,
Thats the one we are using, we got the cheap one. Its ok for maintanance only. The cutter is hidden from view, can't see it while using it and the nozzle cleaner/reamer removes some nozzle metal if you press too hard. It has its uses.

Thanks Guys,
I ordered an extra gun for my hh175 from:

http://store.yahoo.com/weldingdirect/index.html

It cost half the price from my local place thanks guys for letting me know of this place. $89.48 and free shipping. Its generic but I wanted a separate gun to do aluminum. I already have the teflon liner and the argon tank. Looks like I'll be welding beer cans soon, just kidding. I'd be happy doing 1/8".

[morpheus]

hey Al, let me know how that gun works out on aluminum with your HH175 ... thanks.

- jack

[Al T.]

Be glad to Jack,

After I ordered it, I noticed that it didn't say what size liner and tip came with it. I plan on changing it to teflon and .035 tip but I wanted to know anyway. I emailed them, 1 hour later they emailed me back, .030 liner and tip. Nice fast response!

[morpheus]

cool.

i didn't think you could push aluminum wire 10ft ?

- jack

[Al T.]

Jack,

Rock said it could be done. I just needed to use thicker wire .035 and the stiffer aluminum wire 5356. Also a Teflon liner is needed to help slide it along. TEFLON LINER NUMBER 194014 is the number I got from Rock. Finally it was advised to keep the cable as straight as possible while welding.

Even after all these precautions I still might get jams. I will let you know how I make out.

[morpheus]

ok. I remember Rock saying that now. good luck with it ... I sure hope it works

- jack

[Al T.]

Update on my extra gun purchase,

The gun I ordered was the M10/H10 compatible, I thought this was correct because the gun accessories kit from Cyberweld states its for M10 or H10 size guns. Wrong one. The plug in end is far too fat to fit in and the trigger connection was the twist on type instead of push on spade type. Picture attached.
Hobart Handler measures, length is 2.14 inches and diameter is .469 inch

I emailed welding-direct.com and within an hour they called me to straighten out my problem. They asked that I send a email with a picture of my plug with measurements. Thank God for email. I look forward to a speedy solution.

Anyone recognize the plug on the left side?

[dysfunction]

Looks like the twist lock plug on my miller. The instructions with the gun say that if you have the connections like yours you cut the shielding, split the wires and put the terminals on

[dysfunction]

Oh lemme know how this resolves. I was looking at their guns a while ago.

[Al T.]

I wish it were that easy, but the diameter of the brass plug is way too big in diameter to fit the HH175. My welder requires a plug that is .469" in diameter.

The new plug is closer to 5/8", it ain't go'na do it without a running start and some vasiline.

Thanks for letting me know its a Miller plug.

I'll keep you guys informed as things happen.

[Roger]

Rock stated in November that HH MIGs and Millermatic Migs use almost the same gun that has different plugs. Welding dealer should have known that if informed it was for HH.

When welding out of position it is arc force that pushes against puddle helping it defiy gravity. Think of it as steam or electrons carrying metal drops and pushing against puddle.

[Al T.]

Roger,
It was my mistake, I ordered it from their internet site so they didn't know I had a HH175. They seem to be a friendly company and have great prices so I do not think I'll have a problem.
Thanks