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  • drujinin
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    Hobby Welder - Why 60amps? Receptacle and Plug are only rated for 50amps?
    VOlderguy - Why 10ga for 80 feet, then switch to 8ga extension cord for 25 feet?

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  • cope
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    Originally posted by bpickell View Post
    I hate to necropost, but I feel this is sort of an important topic and people spend way more money than they need to.

    Yes 6/3 wire sounds great in theory, but think about it this way. What gauge wire is used to wire your garage? I highly doubt it's 6 gauge, and I doubt it's 8 gauge unless you wired it yourself. 90% of 230 volt wiring is going to be done in 12 gauge. So using a 6 gauge extension cord is just wasting money. The weakest link in the line is what is going to fail, and in your case it will be your garage wiring.

    I totally get the better safe than sorry scenario, but I don't want to spend $500 for an extension cord when I can get away with a $100 extension cord with zero difference to the welder.

    Edit: Before I get flamed for my reply let me say this. If you have a welder that supposedly draws 50 amps technically your extension cord should be 1 gauge wire. That is if you plan on a 50 foot extension cord. With that being said, is the wiring in your garage 1 gauge? I doubt it.
    I actually wired my welder circuit with 6/3. I once ran an Airco 225 AC on #10 very successfully, but I've had the 6/3 in the wall for 28 years, so the cost is nothing.
    Last edited by cope; 06-09-2014, 08:40 AM.

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  • Northweldor
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    Originally posted by VOlderguy View Post
    When I got my Handler 190, I called Hobart Techs about ext. Cord. They told mea #10 would be adequate to 80'. I wire my recep with 10/2 w/grd. Then I got a #8 ext. Cord on sale at northern tool. Cord is 25'. But heaviest I weld is 5/16 - 1/4". All works great for me.
    And, your #8 cord, even though it is overkill now, is still available for other outlets and higher input machines in the future, and, expands range of your plug, with less voltage drop. Not really waste of money, whereas, buying exactly the needed wire guage could be.

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  • VOlderguy
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    extension cord

    When I got my Handler 190, I called Hobart Techs about ext. Cord. They told mea #10 would be adequate to 80'. I wire my recep with 10/2 w/grd. Then I got a #8 ext. Cord on sale at northern tool. Cord is 25'. But heaviest I weld is 5/16 - 1/4". All works great for me.

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  • bpickell
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    Originally posted by Hobby welder View Post
    I don't know abut you guys, but if I am gonna do an extension cord, I'd go 6/3, 60 amps and its not gonna starve the welder and will hold up to continues use at high amps on the machine.

    Now, that's just me, 8/3 should be just fine, maybe 10/3 but..........

    Maybe that's just because I have 20+ foot coiled up.........
    I hate to necropost, but I feel this is sort of an important topic and people spend way more money than they need to.

    Yes 6/3 wire sounds great in theory, but think about it this way. What gauge wire is used to wire your garage? I highly doubt it's 6 gauge, and I doubt it's 8 gauge unless you wired it yourself. 90% of 230 volt wiring is going to be done in 12 gauge. So using a 6 gauge extension cord is just wasting money. The weakest link in the line is what is going to fail, and in your case it will be your garage wiring.

    I totally get the better safe than sorry scenario, but I don't want to spend $500 for an extension cord when I can get away with a $100 extension cord with zero difference to the welder.

    Edit: Before I get flamed for my reply let me say this. If you have a welder that supposedly draws 50 amps technically your extension cord should be 1 gauge wire. That is if you plan on a 50 foot extension cord. With that being said, is the wiring in your garage 1 gauge? I doubt it.
    Last edited by bpickell; 05-24-2014, 08:35 PM.

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  • SidecarFlip
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    Was out in the shop this morning and realized that I've replaced every factory whip cord on all my machines with longer hookup cords, every one. I sure like the heavy gage stranded multi-conductor (single phase 3 wire and 3 phase 4 wire) neoprene sheathed, abrasion resistanr, bulk cable they sell at Menards. I believe it's Southwire brand.

    Menards also has pre-made (with plugs attached), generator whip cords of various lengths and gages on the shelf, Southwire again.

    Just a heads up.

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  • canoecruiser
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    These folks seem to have pretty good pricing: http://www.wireandcabletogo.com

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  • Dale M.
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    Originally posted by Scott V View Post
    8 ga. it is!!

    One question, since I have both here.... Red or black Cinder?
    IT could be tan as in "clinker"...

    Dale

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  • Scott V
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    Originally posted by Sberry View Post
    Joe, the welder comes with a 12 cord and plug, you will not "starve" a stickmate no matter how hard you run it, the thing would be a smokin cinder with a 10 before it would overheat the wire.
    8 ga. it is!!

    One question, since I have both here.... Red or black Cinder?
    Last edited by Scott V; 03-06-2013, 09:21 PM.

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  • Sberry
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    Joe, the welder comes with a 12 cord and plug, you will not "starve" a stickmate no matter how hard you run it, the thing would be a smokin cinder with a 10 before it would overheat the wire.

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  • cope
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    Originally posted by usmcpop View Post
    I recently bought some 6/3 SOOW cord (made in USA) for $3.50/ft locally. I think 8/3 is more like $2.50 - $2.75. The rubber SO cord is pretty flexible. The ends weren't too costly.
    Many years ago, Hotfoot, a regular here, sold me a 100' 6/3 extension cord on a wooden spool for $85. A friend and I agreed to split the cost, and I cut the cord in half and made two cords out of it. My friend sold his Mig before he could come pick up the cord, and he told me to keep it., If I had known, I would have left it uncut.
    Last edited by cope; 03-06-2013, 12:50 PM.

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  • usmcpop
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    I recently bought some 6/3 SOOW cord (made in USA) for $3.50/ft locally. I think 8/3 is more like $2.50 - $2.75. The rubber SO cord is pretty flexible. The ends weren't too costly.

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  • cope
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    Originally posted by Hobby welder View Post
    I don't know abut you guys, but if I am gonna do an extension cord, I'd go 6/3, 60 amps and its not gonna starve the welder and will hold up to continues use at high amps on the machine.

    Now, that's just me, 8/3 should be just fine, maybe 10/3 but..........

    Maybe that's just because I have 20+ foot coiled up.........
    In theory, you are correct, but most people won't use a Stickmate at high enough amperage to need 6/3. Having a piece on hand does tip the balance.
    Last edited by cope; 03-03-2013, 08:09 AM.

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  • Hobby welder
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    I don't know abut you guys, but if I am gonna do an extension cord, I'd go 6/3, 60 amps and its not gonna starve the welder and will hold up to continues use at high amps on the machine.

    Now, that's just me, 8/3 should be just fine, maybe 10/3 but..........

    Maybe that's just because I have 20+ foot coiled up.........

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  • cope
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    Originally posted by usmcpop View Post
    BR Welding does some good deals on occasion. They are a real brick-and-mortar store. Been there awhile.
    Several years ago I bought a 25' length of 8/3 power cord from Welding Depot IIRC. I hard wired it to my MM210. It has a much softer jacket than the newer pre-wired cords.

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