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  • How many watch the duty cycle when welding

    I really don't much. Even on low settings weld for 5 minutes, sit for 5 minutes. I don't think so. I read a while back not welding to a duty cycle will shorten the life of the welder. But probably not enough to bother a weekend guy like myself. I only weld a little bit but like last weekend I was welding up some plates to short up some weak spots on the finsh mower. Once I got all the plates sized and fitted it was not stop welding for over an hour.

    On another note you see below I have a HH 140, I still find myself using the stick on things like this. IE not perfectly clean metal. The mig is still 1st choice on 16ga tubing projects.

    Rob
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    Lincoln 220v AC buzzbox
    120/80 O/A
    Second Location
    HF 220v gasless mig
    Hobart AC Stickmate
    80/B O/A

  • #2
    well when i stick weld i dont because my stick is a little crappy harbor freight one
    Dylan

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    • #3
      I've never timed it, but there have been times that I knew I was past it!

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      • #4
        I never have, but using a 350A machine I'd have to try hard to go over the duty cycle

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        • #5
          I never pay attn to it, remember the rating is at rated output, the lower current you go the higher the cycle is.
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          • #6
            Look up the manual for your welding machine. They usually have a graph in them that plots the duty cycle in relation to a given output setting.

            Just because your welding machine may have thermal cut off circuitry, doesn't mean you should use it.
            Lincoln Idealarc 250
            Lincoln Weldanpower CC/CV engine drive
            Lincoln LN-25 wire feeder
            Miller Syncrowave 180 SD
            Various oxy-fuel setups featuring Victor, Harris, and Prest-o-lite products

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            • #7
              Have Miller MP65E. 650 amps at 100%. What duty cycle?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mr Meck View Post
                650 amps at 100%.
                So YOU'RE the one who keeps making my lights dim!

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                • #9
                  I used to pay closer attention to how long I was welding so I wouldn't exceed the duty cycle... Now I think my enternal clock just tells me.
                  HH140
                  Millermatic 135
                  Miller Thunderbolt XL

                  "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" -Mario Andretti

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                  • #10
                    Krunch, It ain't me. Honest. MPE 65 is 460 3phase. So if your lights are dimming it's the power companies fault. It is the other double banked 460 3 phase I air gouge with that's causing your dimming problem. I get only 600 amps at 60% with that one. Really I need a 110 to weld 12ga with...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mr Meck View Post
                      Have Miller MP65E. 650 amps at 100%. What duty cycle?

                      Yall don't count!!!!

                      Yeah I usually spend a lot of time cutting, fitting, clamping, maybe tacking. But when I'm ready to make it one piece, I have a pocket full of rods and cut loose! I don't want to stop. Maybe I shortened the life from 35 to 30 years!

                      BTW, welding this time of year is a lot more fun!
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                      HH140 and c-25
                      Lincoln 220v AC buzzbox
                      120/80 O/A
                      Second Location
                      HF 220v gasless mig
                      Hobart AC Stickmate
                      80/B O/A

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by robsd View Post
                        Yall don't count!!!!

                        Yeah I usually spend a lot of time cutting, fitting, clamping, maybe tacking. But when I'm ready to make it one piece, I have a pocket full of rods and cut loose! I don't want to stop. Maybe I shortened the life from 35 to 30 years!

                        BTW, welding this time of year is a lot more fun!

                        Rob, get someone to time you. I suspect you don't weld as long as you think.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by robsd View Post
                          BTW, welding this time of year is a lot more fun!
                          Am I correct in believing that you can push the duty cycle a little harder when you start up with an ice-cold (barn-cold) transformer stick machine in the winter?

                          Seems like it would take longer for the windings to heat up ... and that they would cool off a lot faster. Then again, with that much current pumping through, they probably heat up pretty darn fast in summer or winter!

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                          • #14
                            It has to help. I ran my Linc ac/dc at 105 or 115 for an hour once as fast as I could stick rods in the stinger but it was 50 degrees, Hobart or Miller rates their cycles at 104 ambient I believe.
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                            • #15
                              I never had a machine I had to watch the duty cycle on
                              "Weld It And You Won't Be Screwed"
                              Rescued from the boneyard SA-250 on a fully equipt trailer (My Wife's Explorer cries every time I hitch up)
                              Trailblazer 301G (can't touch the SA-200 for stick)
                              Arcair K-4000 A.K.A "The Hissing Cobra"
                              HF- 251 TIG box for the TB with a Weldcrap torch, Yes I weld aluminum
                              More than a toolbox full of stuff on an F-350 that is way to small

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