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    I am considering the Hobart 400 plasma cutter

    I find two different model numbers 500474 and 3603
    but I have not been able to find anything telling me the difference.
    I do not want to just ASSUME they are identical.
    Does anyone know?
    Also does anyone have any experience with this model?

  • #2
    Most, if not all, Miller and Hobart products use a 6 digit part #. This website uses the 6 digit # 500 474, (click on products, above). All welding websites I checked use the 6 digit # 500 474. The 4 digit # you have must be a particular websites stock # that they are using for themselves.
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    Weldcraft CS300 tig torch
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    • #3
      By the way... welcome to the forum. Hope you keep coming back. There is an endless wealth of information and very good people here. ---Mike---
      BUY AMERICAN... THE JOB YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN!!!!!

      Hobart Champion 16
      Miller external secondary contactor
      stick foot pedal
      remote voltage control(homemade)
      Hobart Portafeed 17(w AG-2000 control box)
      Bernard Q350 mig gun
      Hobart AG-2000 pull gun
      Lincoln Hi-Freq k799(yes, I know it's red)
      Weldcraft CS300 tig torch
      Miller RFC-23A foot pedal
      Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50
      Victor 450/300 series torches
      oodles of connecting cords

      I can fix it, just pay me to replace it first

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      • #4
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        • #5
          mwoh419 - thanks for the serial # info - although I have seen the four digit number from more than one source and if I call the supplier y'now the person on the phone is not going to know: " I dunno, it says #3603 here"
          84ZMike - I have looked at that link but do not see the answer to my question.
          Hmmm is the 3603 more , less or the same. the 3603 is listed for several hundred dollars more but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
          But I'm not going to pull the trigger on either until I figure it out.

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          • #6
            hobart 400 the same as...?

            several people have mentioned that the hobart 400 is identical to the miller xyz or the lincoln 123. Is the this true? identical? (other than the paint color).
            If so, I can confidentially shop the best deal amongst the equivalent quality brands without fear of quality drop of?
            By the way, this is probably a loaded question suitable for another thread but... are there brands to definitely be avoided? (I'm sure) and I honestly don't want this to lead into a chevy vs ford type of debate.

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            • #7
              The Hobart 400 and the Miller 375 are the same machine, but the miller costs more, that's it. Lincoln, Esab, Thermal Dynammics, Hypertherm and all others are not the same as the Miller and Hobart. They are all built on the same concepts, but they are all designed differently. Parts will not interchange. 84ZMike's link takes you to the same page that I was talking about. Along the left side below the picture it shows the 6 digit # 500 474. It is not a serial #, it is the part # for that item, and it is the one that Hobart goes by. You say # 3603 to Hobart, and they will have no clue what you are talking about. Don't know where you are getting the 4 digit # from. Provide us with a link, and maybe we can help you. Regardless, why pay more for the same exact item if you don't have to. Here's the best price I found on Google Shopping, and I believe they have free shipping: http://store.cyberweld.com/hobair40011v.htm

              ---Mike---
              BUY AMERICAN... THE JOB YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN!!!!!

              Hobart Champion 16
              Miller external secondary contactor
              stick foot pedal
              remote voltage control(homemade)
              Hobart Portafeed 17(w AG-2000 control box)
              Bernard Q350 mig gun
              Hobart AG-2000 pull gun
              Lincoln Hi-Freq k799(yes, I know it's red)
              Weldcraft CS300 tig torch
              Miller RFC-23A foot pedal
              Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50
              Victor 450/300 series torches
              oodles of connecting cords

              I can fix it, just pay me to replace it first

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              • #8
                As far as brands to avoid..... anything not made in the USA. Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, Thermal Dynamics, Esab, and Hypertherm are all good (if i've forgotten one, my apologies), and made here. You can't go wrong with any of them. Customer service, tech support, and parts availability will be better than with other brands. Plus you will get better reliability in the long run.
                ---Mike---
                BUY AMERICAN... THE JOB YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN!!!!!

                Hobart Champion 16
                Miller external secondary contactor
                stick foot pedal
                remote voltage control(homemade)
                Hobart Portafeed 17(w AG-2000 control box)
                Bernard Q350 mig gun
                Hobart AG-2000 pull gun
                Lincoln Hi-Freq k799(yes, I know it's red)
                Weldcraft CS300 tig torch
                Miller RFC-23A foot pedal
                Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50
                Victor 450/300 series torches
                oodles of connecting cords

                I can fix it, just pay me to replace it first

                Comment


                • #9
                  here is a link to the 3606

                  Here is one of the links to a hobart 400 but it is a H3603 instead of the 500474

                  http://grizzly.amazonwebstore.com/Ho...source=froogle

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                  • #10
                    here is a link to the 3606

                    Here is one of the links to a hobart 400 but it is a H3603 instead of the 500474

                    http://grizzly.amazonwebstore.com/Ho...source=froogle

                    I'm starting to believe its some sort of SKU number and meaningless to me.
                    As usual I overthink the obvious.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by docbarb View Post
                      I'm starting to believe its some sort of SKU number and meaningless to me.
                      Ya think? Like where on that page it says "SKU: H3603?" That looks like exactly what it is. SKU numbers don't have to have any relation to the model number.


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                      • #12
                        duh

                        Thanks Zrexxer,
                        like i said i often, no, usually overthink the obvious.
                        At least no women, children or animals were harmed in this incident
                        I find it somewhat liberating to expose my ignorance to the universe - lowers the bar for the next time around
                        Although it seems I saw this mystery 3603 in several sources...
                        whatever...
                        I will now shut up, go buy the 500474 and go quietly to the shop for awhile.
                        Last edited by docbarb; 02-03-2009, 01:56 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Zrexxer,

                          Thanks man! I was just trying to figure out how to point that out to docbarb.
                          Evidently that's some sort of universal department store type stock # for Amazon affiliates.

                          Docbarb, if you want to buy one hassle free for a good price, go to that Cyberweld link I put in an earlier post. I have dealt with them before, and have no problem returning for more . They are located in Illinois, and do offer free shipping to the lower 48. $1106.00 to your door is a pretty good deal. Make sure also that you have gloves, goggles or faceshield with a #5 shade, and welders hat... not hood... but hat. The sparks go everywhere!
                          ---Mike---
                          Last edited by mwoh419; 02-03-2009, 03:07 PM. Reason: added content
                          BUY AMERICAN... THE JOB YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN!!!!!

                          Hobart Champion 16
                          Miller external secondary contactor
                          stick foot pedal
                          remote voltage control(homemade)
                          Hobart Portafeed 17(w AG-2000 control box)
                          Bernard Q350 mig gun
                          Hobart AG-2000 pull gun
                          Lincoln Hi-Freq k799(yes, I know it's red)
                          Weldcraft CS300 tig torch
                          Miller RFC-23A foot pedal
                          Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50
                          Victor 450/300 series torches
                          oodles of connecting cords

                          I can fix it, just pay me to replace it first

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mwoh419 View Post
                            Docbarb, if you want to buy one hassle free for a good price, go to that Cyberweld link I put in an earlier post. I have dealt with them before, and have no problem returning for more . They are located in Illinois, and do offer free shipping to the lower 48.
                            Cyberweld is a good outfit, but they're actually located in New Jersey. Not that it matters - machines are drop shipped from the nearest Miller warehouse; I ordered my Syncrowave from them and it shipped from Dallas, I had it in three days.
                            Trailblazer 302 * Millermatic 212 * Syncrowave 180SD * X-Treme 12VS Feeder * Spoolmate 3035
                            Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52 Plasma * Lincoln 175 MIG

                            Victor Superrange II * Victor Journeyman

                            Hobart HH 125EZ


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                            • #15
                              Cyberweld is a good outfit, but they're actually located in New Jersey
                              Yeah, my bad. I knew that. Got them confused with another place that I've dealt with in the past. Says right on my receipts J.W. Goodliffe & Son, Inc.1900 E. Elizabeth Ave. P.O. Box 4370 Linden, NJ 07036 (800) 419-0580 FAX(908) 486-9366 ---Mike---
                              BUY AMERICAN... THE JOB YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN!!!!!

                              Hobart Champion 16
                              Miller external secondary contactor
                              stick foot pedal
                              remote voltage control(homemade)
                              Hobart Portafeed 17(w AG-2000 control box)
                              Bernard Q350 mig gun
                              Hobart AG-2000 pull gun
                              Lincoln Hi-Freq k799(yes, I know it's red)
                              Weldcraft CS300 tig torch
                              Miller RFC-23A foot pedal
                              Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 50
                              Victor 450/300 series torches
                              oodles of connecting cords

                              I can fix it, just pay me to replace it first

                              Comment

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