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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dan View Post
    On the Hobart Handler 135, due to the design of the unit, when you make an adjustment to the voltage, it changes the rate that wire feeds for the same wire speed dial setting. So a wire speed dial setting of 20 is going to feed the wire at a faster rate with the voltage set to tap 2 then it does with the voltage set to tap 1
    Well Dan...I'm pretty sure I agree with that statement.
    However...while easy enough to find out, one two three seconds, on 4 settings, what does it mean in practical terms?

    How does a guy who knows that, tell a guy who doesn't what effect it has? Or all the effects it has?


    We see more wire. What's it doing?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by oldguyfrom56 View Post
      Well Dan...I'm pretty sure I agree with that statement.
      However...while easy enough to find out, one two three seconds, on 4 settings, what does it mean in practical terms?

      How does a guy who knows that, tell a guy who doesn't what effect it has? Or all the effects it has?


      We see more wire. What's it doing?
      You've got a tough job considering you're talking to a crowd with machines that have knobs and dials that have no real values shown other than 1,2,3,4 on one dial or 0 thru 10 and then 0 to 100 on another dial. Plus without time consuming and extensive measurements, and recording those, we have no way of knowing just what we are doing as we crank one or the other.

      My MM175 has the wire speed tracking thing Dan refers to except the voltage dial is continuous, not tapped. Bump the voltage up a touch and you've just bumped the wire feed speed up, like it or not. Bottom line, touch one knob and you've made two adjustments. Can get frustrating. At least my lincoln machine has real wire feed speeds on the feed speed dial. That helps.

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      • #33
        Good read. Note TRG-42 at about post number 20.

        https://weldtalk.hobartwelders.com/f...oes-what/page2

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sandy View Post
          Good read. Note TRG-42 at about post number 20.

          https://weldtalk.hobartwelders.com/f...oes-what/page2
          4 pages of good reading. And fun to. Thumbs up!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sandy View Post

            You've got a tough job considering you're talking to a crowd with machines that have knobs and dials that have no real values shown other than 1,2,3,4 on one dial or 0 thru 10 and then 0 to 100 on another dial. Plus without time consuming and extensive measurements, and recording those, we have no way of knowing just what we are doing as we crank one or the other.

            My MM175 has the wire speed tracking thing Dan refers to except the voltage dial is continuous, not tapped. Bump the voltage up a touch and you've just bumped the wire feed speed up, like it or not. Bottom line, touch one knob and you've made two adjustments. Can get frustrating. At least my lincoln machine has real wire feed speeds on the feed speed dial. That helps.
            Between you and me, it almost doesn't matter. Until you go to bend a coupon. Then things matter. These by the way were fails. However, to a lessor standard, all three passed?

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