Ironman 250 VS Millermatic 252 Question

[ibe_waiting]

Can any one tell me what the differance is between the irnonman 250 and the millermatic 252? Is one better than the other and why?

[cope]

Have you looked at the specifications for the two?

[crawler]

The answer can be found here:

You asked the same question on the Miller board.

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/communities/mboard/showthread.php?t=14875

What other info are you looking for?

MM251/252 is NOT in the same class of machine as a Hobart Ironman 250 when you compare the duty cycle and power output. I would say they're priced about the same when you compare features.

Ironman 250 specfications:

http://www.hobartwelders.com/products/wirefeed/ironman250/

30 to 250 amp range
60% at 200amps duty cycle
12 foot 200 amp mig gun
90 to 750 IPM wire speed
35v max open circuit voltage
7 tap voltage setttings:

Millermatic 252 specifications:

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/millermatic_252/

30-300 amp range
200 amps at 60% duty cycle
15 ft. 250 amp mig gun
38v max open circuit voltage
50-700 IPM (inches per/minute) wire speed
Active Arc Stabilizer
Angled drive wire feed

[ibe_waiting]

I am asking here to try to get a unbias opinon, I got the feeling that everyone at the miller fourms were partial to millers. I am more than likely going to buy the miller 252, for the few hundred more I think it is a somewhat slightly better welder. Whats the best online store to get a 252 for a good price? Thanks for the input

[crawler]

I am asking here to try to get a unbias opinon, I got the feeling that everyone at the miller fourms were partial to millers. I am more than likely going to buy the miller 252, for the few hundred more I think it is a somewhat slightly better welder. Whats the best online store to get a 252 for a good price? Thanks for the input

IMHO,

You will not get a biased opinion on either Hobart or Miller sites since they're owned by the same company.

Some MM252 on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLERMATIC-252-MIG-WELDER-NEW-907321_W0QQitemZ270305048200QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item270305048200&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLERMATIC-252-MIG-WELDER-COMPLETE-PACKAGE-NEW-907321_W0QQitemZ390016016596QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item390016016596&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

This one comes with a 33# roll of wire

http://cgi.ebay.com/Miller-Millermatic-252-907321-Mig-Welder-230-Volt-New_W0QQitemZ360114838520QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item360114838520&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Weldfabulous (Mississippi welding)

http://www.weldfabulous.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/32435/vpid/4543658/vpcsid/8724878/rid/126707

Cyberweld

http://store.cyberweld.com/mil251witmet.html

Indiana Oxygen

http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.com/servlet/the-2054/millermatic-252--907321/Detail

BR Welding

http://www.brweldingsupplies.com/product_details.cfm?category_id=12&product_id=1108

Looks like it is going to run about $2039 to 2040 for the MM252 if you buy directly from the vendor.

[Brand X]

IMHO,

You will not get a biased opinion on either Hobart or Miller sites since they're owned by the same company.

Just more people pushing Esab 250 migmasters over here now.

[crawler]

Just more people pushing Esab 250 migmasters over here now.

Yep.. The corruption continues... Look what happened to Don....

[Dan]

Yep.. The corruption continues... Look what happened to Don....

If I wanted a legitimate 250+ amp unit, I'd with what Don just picked up, one of these ( see attachment), a MM 252, or a PM 255. The IM 250 doesn't make the list, because it doesn't even come close to being in the same league as the other above mentioned units.

[dda52]

Yup, I have to admit I have been corrupted. The yellow thing sure does weld nice, so I guess its all for the best.

[Wyoming]

Nice welder, but the weldor...only a mother could love that face. Don, have you ever thought through the plastic surgery options? Hehehehehehehehehehe. I like the beanie. Is the new TIG up and running yet?

[dda52]

Well, swmbo likes it, so that's all that matters. I ain't trying to impress you anyway. Beanie???? I don't wear a beanie. That is a Rasco welding cap turned backwards. I was welding afterall.

The TIG is and isn't up. I am about 80% done with robocart. Once its cart is done, I'll call it up and running....at a reduced rate, though. Won't be upgrading the electric for a while yet. Still, I have a 175a max on stick and almost 200 on TIG. That's enough to play around with.

[crawler]

Nice welder, but the weldor...only a mother could love that face. Don, have you ever thought through the plastic surgery options? Hehehehehehehehehehe. I like the beanie. Is the new TIG up and running yet?

Here is his model pose..

[dda52]

Hmmm......I see I'm going to have to dig out some of my glamour shots for all to see.

[Wyoming]

Hmmm......I see I'm going to have to dig out some of my glamour shots for all to see.

I don't know Don...brings to mind the old silk purse/sow's ear adage if you ask me. Glad to hear the Mrs. is impressed. Talk her into a metal lathe??? Paul and I have such high hopes for you yet. I still like your beanie.

[Wyoming]

Don,
What's the deal on the elec. upgrade? Price of copper? I can look around for some sub-panels, disconnects and such if you give me a shout and tell me what ya' need.