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  • Ironman 250 VS Millermatic 252 Question

    Can any one tell me what the differance is between the irnonman 250 and the millermatic 252? Is one better than the other and why?

  • #2
    Have you looked at the specifications for the two?

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    • #3
      The answer can be found here:

      You asked the same question on the Miller board.

      http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...ad.php?t=14875

      What other info are you looking for?

      MM251/252 is NOT in the same class of machine as a Hobart Ironman 250 when you compare the duty cycle and power output. I would say they're priced about the same when you compare features.

      Ironman 250 specfications:
      http://www.hobartwelders.com/product...ed/ironman250/
      30 to 250 amp range
      60% at 200amps duty cycle
      12 foot 200 amp mig gun
      90 to 750 IPM wire speed
      35v max open circuit voltage
      7 tap voltage setttings:

      Millermatic 252 specifications:
      http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_252/

      30-300 amp range
      200 amps at 60% duty cycle
      15 ft. 250 amp mig gun
      38v max open circuit voltage
      50-700 IPM (inches per/minute) wire speed
      Active Arc Stabilizer
      Angled drive wire feed
      Last edited by crawler; 12-09-2008, 03:43 PM.
      Millermatic Passport Plus
      Millermatic 200

      Millermatic 350P with Python
      XMT 304 /w S-64 feeder and 12RC
      Dynasty 300 DX
      Victor O/A
      Premier Power Welder for my trail junk.

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      • #4
        I am asking here to try to get a unbias opinon, I got the feeling that everyone at the miller fourms were partial to millers. I am more than likely going to buy the miller 252, for the few hundred more I think it is a somewhat slightly better welder. Whats the best online store to get a 252 for a good price? Thanks for the input

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ibe_waiting View Post
          I am asking here to try to get a unbias opinon, I got the feeling that everyone at the miller fourms were partial to millers. I am more than likely going to buy the miller 252, for the few hundred more I think it is a somewhat slightly better welder. Whats the best online store to get a 252 for a good price? Thanks for the input

          IMHO,

          You will not get a biased opinion on either Hobart or Miller sites since they're owned by the same company.

          Some MM252 on ebay:
          http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLERMATIC-252-...3A1%7C294%3A50
          http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLERMATIC-252-...3A1%7C294%3A50

          This one comes with a 33# roll of wire
          http://cgi.ebay.com/Miller-Millermat...3A1%7C294%3A50

          Weldfabulous (Mississippi welding)
          http://www.weldfabulous.com/Shop/Con...878/rid/126707

          Cyberweld
          http://store.cyberweld.com/mil251witmet.html

          Indiana Oxygen
          http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...-907321/Detail

          BR Welding
          http://www.brweldingsupplies.com/pro...roduct_id=1108

          Looks like it is going to run about $2039 to 2040 for the MM252 if you buy directly from the vendor.
          Millermatic Passport Plus
          Millermatic 200

          Millermatic 350P with Python
          XMT 304 /w S-64 feeder and 12RC
          Dynasty 300 DX
          Victor O/A
          Premier Power Welder for my trail junk.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by crawler View Post
            IMHO,

            You will not get a biased opinion on either Hobart or Miller sites since they're owned by the same company.
            Just more people pushing Esab 250 migmasters over here now.
            Esab 2200 AC/DC
            Thermal 211i
            Thermal Pee-wee 85s
            Smith O/A plus mini torch
            Smith machine torch
            LN-25 pro
            LF-72 feeder
            Edwards 65 ton
            5X10 CNC table
            Victor A-120
            Miller Shopmate 300DX
            S-74D feeder




            Remember good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brand X View Post
              Just more people pushing Esab 250 migmasters over here now.
              Yep.. The corruption continues... Look what happened to Don....
              Millermatic Passport Plus
              Millermatic 200

              Millermatic 350P with Python
              XMT 304 /w S-64 feeder and 12RC
              Dynasty 300 DX
              Victor O/A
              Premier Power Welder for my trail junk.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by crawler View Post
                Yep.. The corruption continues... Look what happened to Don....
                If I wanted a legitimate 250+ amp unit, I'd with what Don just picked up, one of these ( see attachment), a MM 252, or a PM 255. The IM 250 doesn't make the list, because it doesn't even come close to being in the same league as the other above mentioned units.
                MigMaster 250- Smooth arc with a good touch of softness to it. Good weld puddle wetout. Light spatter producer.
                Ironman 230 - Soft arc with a touch of agressiveness to it. Very good weld puddle wet out. Light spatter producer.


                PM 180C



                HH 125 EZ - impressive little fluxcore only unit

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                • #9
                  Yup, I have to admit I have been corrupted. The yellow thing sure does weld nice, so I guess its all for the best.
                  Don


                  Go Spurs Go!!!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Nice welder, but the weldor...only a mother could love that face. Don, have you ever thought through the plastic surgery options? Hehehehehehehehehehe. I like the beanie. Is the new TIG up and running yet?
                    Miller 251, Lincoln PrecisionTig 275, Miller DialArc 250 AC/DC, Hypertherm 900, Bridgeport J-head, Jet 14" lathe, South Bend 9" lathe, Hossfeld bender with a collection of dies driving me to the poorhouse, Logan shaper, Ellis 3000 bandsaw, Royersford drill press and a Victor Journeyman O/A.

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                    • #11
                      Well, swmbo likes it, so that's all that matters. I ain't trying to impress you anyway. Beanie???? I don't wear a beanie. That is a Rasco welding cap turned backwards. I was welding afterall.

                      The TIG is and isn't up. I am about 80% done with robocart. Once its cart is done, I'll call it up and running....at a reduced rate, though. Won't be upgrading the electric for a while yet. Still, I have a 175a max on stick and almost 200 on TIG. That's enough to play around with.
                      Don


                      Go Spurs Go!!!!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wyoming View Post
                        Nice welder, but the weldor...only a mother could love that face. Don, have you ever thought through the plastic surgery options? Hehehehehehehehehehe. I like the beanie. Is the new TIG up and running yet?
                        Here is his model pose..
                        Millermatic Passport Plus
                        Millermatic 200

                        Millermatic 350P with Python
                        XMT 304 /w S-64 feeder and 12RC
                        Dynasty 300 DX
                        Victor O/A
                        Premier Power Welder for my trail junk.

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                        • #13
                          Hmmm......I see I'm going to have to dig out some of my glamour shots for all to see.






                          Don


                          Go Spurs Go!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dda52 View Post
                            Hmmm......I see I'm going to have to dig out some of my glamour shots for all to see.






                            I don't know Don...brings to mind the old silk purse/sow's ear adage if you ask me. Glad to hear the Mrs. is impressed. Talk her into a metal lathe??? Paul and I have such high hopes for you yet. I still like your beanie.
                            Miller 251, Lincoln PrecisionTig 275, Miller DialArc 250 AC/DC, Hypertherm 900, Bridgeport J-head, Jet 14" lathe, South Bend 9" lathe, Hossfeld bender with a collection of dies driving me to the poorhouse, Logan shaper, Ellis 3000 bandsaw, Royersford drill press and a Victor Journeyman O/A.

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                            • #15
                              Don,
                              What's the deal on the elec. upgrade? Price of copper? I can look around for some sub-panels, disconnects and such if you give me a shout and tell me what ya' need.
                              Miller 251, Lincoln PrecisionTig 275, Miller DialArc 250 AC/DC, Hypertherm 900, Bridgeport J-head, Jet 14" lathe, South Bend 9" lathe, Hossfeld bender with a collection of dies driving me to the poorhouse, Logan shaper, Ellis 3000 bandsaw, Royersford drill press and a Victor Journeyman O/A.

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