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  • Got the HH210 - I miss the "puge"!

    My HH210 arrived today.
    Tried it out briefly by running beads on 1/4" plate.
    Tried tap 4,5,6,7. Looks good!

    One complaint though - my HH175 has a "purge" feature where the wire feed is disabled, so that you can purge the argon line after closing the tank valve. Very handy - the HH210 doesn't have this feature.

    Other than that I am happy, but will reserve final comment till I can spend some time with it. I do have quite a bit of 1/4" sq tube to weld up - just never find the time!
    ken
    HH210
    2 Smith Airline outfits, 2 Harris 50s,2 W200s ,J27, Meco Midget and Dillon
    Thermal Arc 185

  • #2
    Just unclamp the feed rollers and purge away.

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    • #3
      Or just turn the wire speed to zero and press the trigger.
      Don


      Go Spurs Go!!!!!!

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      • #4
        Yep, of course I turned the feed down to zero, but zero means 60ips (from memory). Wasted about 6" of wire, no bigee I suppose.

        Unclamping the feed roller is a good idea but still, why did they remove the purge function?

        Sure wish I weren't too busy with other stuff to play with the machine!
        HH210
        2 Smith Airline outfits, 2 Harris 50s,2 W200s ,J27, Meco Midget and Dillon
        Thermal Arc 185

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        • #5
          So what is the benefit of purging?

          No, I don't know what I'm doing, But I am learning.

          Thanks

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kenc View Post
            Unclamping the feed roller is a good idea but still, why did they remove the purge function?
            Probably because of all the cries of "My welder won't feed wire!" I've seen a bunch of them here on the forum in the past few years

            Rufus, it lets the shielding gas push the air out of the 10-15 feet of hose leading to the nozzle so that the first inches of your weld aren't contaminated.
            Trailblazer 302 * Millermatic 212 * Syncrowave 180SD * X-Treme 12VS Feeder * Spoolmate 3035
            Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52 Plasma * Lincoln 175 MIG

            Victor Superrange II * Victor Journeyman

            Hobart HH 125EZ


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            • #7
              Also lets you remove pressure from the regulator diaphragm (when you've finished welding and you're shutting things down) without wasting any wire.
              HH210
              2 Smith Airline outfits, 2 Harris 50s,2 W200s ,J27, Meco Midget and Dillon
              Thermal Arc 185

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              • #8
                Open the door and flip it to spool gun pull the trigger and purge away....
                George W. Bush saving your butt whether you like it or not!
                If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.
                Thomas Paine
                Fear is temporary, regret is forever
                HH210 w S.G.
                Victor/Uniweld O/P
                Dewalt Chop Saw

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rufus View Post
                  So what is the benefit of purging?

                  No, I don't know what I'm doing, But I am learning.

                  Thanks
                  and don't sweat it if you don't have a Purge setting- the amount of wire that is "wasted" by us hobby doods is minimal.
                  Ed Conley
                  Screaming Broccoli, Inc
                  http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
                  MM252
                  MM211
                  Miller Passport Plus, Spoolmate 100
                  TA185
                  SO 2020 Bender
                  Miller 125c Plasma
                  "Hold my beer while I try this!"

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                  • #10
                    If you are worried about wasting 6" of wire, you'd croak if you saw what I was doing today. Trying different wires and settings with a new machine. Every time I swap wire, I waste 15' of wire. Did it at least 4 times.
                    Don


                    Go Spurs Go!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      Now I know why the metal became so expensive.

                      P.S. As for the HH210 helpful features, I wonder why they decided to force users to remove the MIG gun in order to connect a spool gun. Simple electrical and gas switches in addition to an extra spool gun connector would eliminate this hassle.
                      Last edited by MichaelP; 11-29-2008, 12:34 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Michael I'd say it is to help keep the cost down...start adding stuff and you have to pay more people to design it , build , etc..... plus it's really not that big of a deal to swap them out just keep an extra set of o-rings around in case you nick one.....
                        George W. Bush saving your butt whether you like it or not!
                        If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.
                        Thomas Paine
                        Fear is temporary, regret is forever
                        HH210 w S.G.
                        Victor/Uniweld O/P
                        Dewalt Chop Saw

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dda52 View Post
                          If you are worried about wasting 6" of wire, you'd croak if you saw what I was doing today. Trying different wires and settings with a new machine. Every time I swap wire, I waste 15' of wire. Did it at least 4 times.
                          I set my M25 on one of those HF mig gun stands and went to the front yard to check on a package I was expecting. When I got back, I heard a strange humming sound, and realized that the trigger had contacted a piece of square tubing I was welding on, and had spooled off many, many feet of .030 wire. I was going to back it up onto the spool, but some of it was pretty dirty, so I just cut it off. The only reason it hadn't started weldin was that the ground clamp wasn't attached. There is a silver lining to every cloud.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 84ZMike View Post
                            Michael I'd say it is to help keep the cost down.
                            That's the only explanation I can see. Athough I'd definitely prefer to pay extra $$ for the convenience of not respooling the wire, disconnecting the gun and the gas bottle. I just ordered HH210 and wonder if it makes sense to keep my old spool gun with a control box instead of buying DP-3035. At least, I won't need to disconnect the regular gun and gas supply every time I need to use spool gun.
                            Last edited by MichaelP; 11-29-2008, 03:41 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MichaelP View Post
                              Now I know why the metal became so expensive.

                              P.S. As for the HH210 helpful features, I wonder why they decided to force users to remove the MIG gun in order to connect a spool gun. Simple electrical and gas switches in addition to an extra spool gun connector would eliminate this hassle.
                              We already offer the set-up you describe. If you want to purchase it for your Handler 210, you can purchase the SGA-100 spool gun interface and the 3035 spoolgun. With these accessories, you can leave your MIG gun connected while using your spool gun.

                              The Handler 210 was designed with integrated spool gun control circuitry and given the ability to utilize the existing gas valve already integrated in the welding system. This gives the customer the opportunity to utilize the system components in more applications (e.g. - steel and aluminum applications) rather than havings redundant components with their associated redundant costs.

                              For customers such as yourself who wish to have systems with the redundant circuitry, it's available for your purchase and will work fine for you.

                              Darrell

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