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  • Hobart Champion 10,000

    Hi, hey I was wondering if anyone has any good experience wth the Champion 10,000? I'm thinking on purchasing on one. I would like to know if it is a rely able welder or not.
    Thankyou
    CB
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  • #2
    i love mine very few problems with it so far

    luke

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    • #3
      Thankyou
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      • #4
        All depends on what your intended use is. While undoubtedly a "rely-able" machine, the Champion has some significant shortcomings compared to the Miller Bobcat, which is probably the closest comparable machine. You need to know beforehand if those issues are going to be a problem for you.
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        • #5
          I have had mine for four years and no trouble

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zrexxer View Post
            All depends on what your intended use is. While undoubtedly a "rely-able" machine, the Champion has some significant shortcomings compared to the Miller Bobcat, which is probably the closest comparable machine. You need to know beforehand if those issues are going to be a problem for you.
            Can you specify what those shortcoming are?

            Thanks,
            GS
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            • #7
              The bobcat has a better duty cycle.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GilaSlim View Post
                Can you specify what those shortcoming are?

                Thanks,
                GS
                Yes, I can.


                Oh.... you want me to tell you, too Well, to start with, the Champion is rated at 230A @30% duty cycle. The Bobcats are all 100% duty cycle, at all amperages. The Champion is a DC only machine machine, the Bobcats are AC/DC machines. The Champion is a CC only machine, the Bobcats have a CV setting for running a suitcase wirefeeder. And the Bobcats are designed to run other accessory machines from their auxiliary power, like plasma cutters. The manual for my Spectrum 2050 plasma gives instructions for connecting it to Bobcats and Trailblazers, then states that it is NOT intended for use with a Hobart Champion 10,000. Are these differences significant? Like I said, depends on what your needs are.
                Last edited by Zrexxer; 11-18-2008, 11:04 PM.
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                • #9
                  I wonder what is up with the Champion then for Miller to have such a warning?
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                  • #10
                    also on the bobcat, someone can be welding and another person can be using the generator to power the grinder, lights, coffee maker, etc...

                    the hobart can only have either the welder going or the generator going at the same time, not both at once.

                    edit: I think this is true, anyways, that is how I read it in the owners manuel. Can someone verify that this is how they work.
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                    • #11
                      Ace you technically can Weld and use Aux power but they do have this warning about Voltage fluctuation




                      Sorta makes the Aux power useless while welding. I would imagine for a one man gig this isn't a big deal since you don't really do both at once.
                      Last edited by Broccoli1; 11-26-2008, 11:12 AM.
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                      • #12
                        The manual for my Spectrum 2050 plasma gives instructions for connecting it to Bobcats and Trailblazers, then states that it is NOT intended for use with a Hobart Champion 10,000. Are these differences significant?
                        I really doubt this makes a difference, I think it has something to do with the marketing dept and being color coordinated.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
                          I would imagine for a one man gig this isn't a big deal since you don't really do both at once.
                          Hey broc,
                          speak for yourself .
                          I have it down to a fine art where I weld with one hand and the other hand I am coming behind the weld with the grinder w/ wire brush, knocking off the slag.
                          That way I can charge double hours.

                          -ryan
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                          Originally posted by scab
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                          • #14
                            I haven't heard much good from my LWS about the Champion 10,000 either but I do know that they said they won't sell anymore if they can help it.
                            Too close to the cost of a Bobcat to be worth it bang for the buck-wise IMO
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