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    I originally got into welding because I wanted to be able to repair stuff and make jigs and tools for woodworking but now, the more I get into welding, the more interested I become in metalwork.

    Now I'm starting to get interested in blacksmithing, mainly for making woodworking tools – drawknives, froes, chisels, lathe chisels, you name it. I guess Roy Underhill ("The Woodwright's Shop") was my inspiration. He has a book where he talks about learning all the skills you need to build a house and make all the furnishings that go into it...and of course, before you can make the furnishings, you have to make the tools to make the furnishings, so blacksmithing is a big part of it.

    Anyway, the metallurgy of different steels is really interesting to me, especially the sometimes counter-intuitive ways they behave with heat treating, tempering, annealing, normalizing, etc.

    Can anyone recommend a good go-to reference book for steel metallurgy? I have a fair number of books that go into the basics about heat treating, etc., but I'd like one that really gets into the lower-level nuts and bolts.

    Glen, do you have any recommendations?

  • #2
    Do a Google Books search on "Metallurgy for the Non-Metallurgist". There are a couple books with previews that may be of interest.

    As for blacksmithing and making woodworking tools, definitely check out the books by Alex Weygers. (Fascinating guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Weygers)

    "Some of his most popular titles are The Modern Blacksmith, The Making of Tools, and The Recycling, Use, and Repair of Tools, the first is sometimes described as "the bible" of blacksmiths. All of these have been compiled into a publication released in 1997 under the title, The Complete Modern Blacksmith."
    --- RJL ----------------------------------------------

    Ordinarily I'm insane, but I have lucid moments when I'm merely stupid.
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    • #3
      metallurgy

      Many decades ago I had a book titled welding metallurgy, I do not know if it is still even in print but check amazon or google and I am sure they have something like it.
      Sincerely,
      Kent
      Welding is an art. But is also science in action. Physics and chemistry. Got to love it.

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      • #4
        Thank you, guys.

        For what it's worth, the book "Metals and How to Weld Them" by Jefferson and Woods published by the Lincoln Welding Foundation (thanks PTSideshow) has a pretty good section on metallurgy.

        It also has some good in-depth discussion of mechanical properties of metals, and what appears to be (I've only skimmed the book so far) a lot of other good material. It's a skinny book, but it looks like there's a lot in it.

        Thanks for the recommendations.

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        • #5
          Just thought I would let the fellow inmates here know I've been checking out the book "Metals and How to Weld Them" mentioned above and it is really good. Seems to go into way more depth than anything I've seen so far.

          There's a chapter on mild steels, a chapter on medium-carbon steels and another chapter on high-carbon and alloy tool steels. Each chapter goes into a lot of detail on how these different materials behave with welding, heat treating, quenching, stress, strain, etc., and it seems to give a lot of practical tips on how to weld and heat-treat them more successfully.

          What's neat about this content in the book is that it explains what happens on a microscopic level with cracking, ductility, etc. with really good illustrations and metaphors that make the principles understandable to a dummy like me (e.g., imagine stringing a bow that's made of mild steel with a wire that's made of tool steel, then heat the system up so everything expands ... and one part won't take as much strain as the other part before permanent deformation occurs) ... and then the book offers nuts-and-bolts solutions to make what you're trying to do possible ("butter the joint with a 25-20 stainless filler before filling with a harder/stronger filler and cracking along the interface will be minimized")...

          Anyway, for anyone else looking for a good book on welding various kinds of steel successfully, I think this book is a keeper.

          (I haven't even gotten into the non-ferrous metals chapters yet...the chapters on various steels are worth the $5 I paid for the book through alibris.com already.)

          FWIW...

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          • #6
            Another good book

            "Metallurgy Fundamentals" by Daniel A. Brandt

            This book and the one mentioned earlier are the best two I've found on steel metallurgy.

            This one is another text book, so there's a lot of fluff, pictures and unnecessary material, but there are a couple of chapters worth their weight in gold, as far as my own understanding of the principles goes.
            Last edited by Krunch; 09-27-2010, 09:42 PM.

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            • #7
              This is a long list but great stuff.
              Came from a man on the AWS message boards a great place for information.


              Welding Metallurgy, Second Edition

              Copyright © 2003 John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
              Welding Metallurgy, Second Edition

              Author(s): Sindo Kou

              Published Online: 31 MAR 2003

              Print ISBN: 9780471434917

              Online ISBN: 9780471434023

              DOI: 10.1002/0471434027

              Welding Metallurgy: Fundamentals Volume 1
              by G.E. Linnert,
              Publisher: American Welding Society
              # ISBN-10: 0871714574
              # ISBN-13: 978-0871714572

              Fundamentals of welding metallurgy
              H Granjon
              ISBN 1 85573 019 7
              ISBN-13: 978 1 85573 019 9
              July 1991

              Metallurgy of Welding, 6th Edition
              Publisher: Plastics Design Library
              Author: J F Lancaster
              Edition: Hardcover
              Edition Number: 6
              Language: English
              ISBN:
              1884207804
              EAN:
              9781884207808
              No. of Pages: 454
              Binding: Hardcover

              I do recommend this one for someone who is just wanting to learn more about metallurgy From the ASM:

              Metallurgy for the Non-Metallurgist

              TABLE OF CONTENTS

              Chapter 1: The Accidental Birth of a No-Name Alloy, 1
              Some Definitions, 2
              The Status of Metallurgy at the Turn of the Century (1900), 3
              Four Turning Points in Technology, 3
              The Foundation Was in Place, 6
              Early Work on Tool Steels, 6
              A Cross Section of Developments: 1900 to 1910, 7
              The Age of Innovation, 8
              The Age of Abundance, 8
              The Metallurgist-Innovator, 9
              Looking Ahead to Chapters 2 and 3, 10
              Chapter 2: Dr. Wilm's Mystery: What Happened?, 11
              Profile of the Atom, 11
              Like Atoms in Groups, 12
              Next Size Up: Grains and Grain Boundaries, 13
              Behavior of Atoms, 13
              Upgrading Pure Metals and Alloys, 21
              Upgrading a “Pure” Metal: 1060 Aluminum, 24
              Overview of Precipitation Hardening Treatments, 24
              Artificial Aging of Alloy 7075, 25
              Natural Aging of Alloy 2017 (Duralumin), 25
              To Dr. Wilm: Solute Atoms Did It, 25
              Chapter 3: Steels and Cast Irons: The Why of Where They Are Used, 27
              A Closer Look at Properties, 30
              Profile of Steel, 31
              Mechanical Properties of Steel, 32
              Physical Properties of Steel, 41
              Steel Mill Products, 44
              Profile of Cast Irons, 45
              Wear Resistance of Irons and Steels, 49
              Producing Castings from Iron and Steel, 51
              Chapter 4: Nonferrous Metals and Alloys: The Why Behind Where They Are Used , 55
              Aluminum (Al), 55
              Beryllium (Be), 55
              Bismuth (Bi), 56
              Cobalt (Co), 56
              Copper (Cu), 56
              Gallium (Ga), 57
              Germanium (Ge), 57
              Hafnium (Hf), 57
              Indium (In), 57
              Lead (Pb), 58
              Magnesium (Mg), 59
              Manganese (Ma), 59
              Nickel (Ni), 59
              Precious Metals, 60
              Rare Earth Metals, 62
              Refractory Metals, 63
              Superalloys, 64
              Tin (Sn), 64
              Titanium (Ti), 65
              Uranium (U), 66
              Vanadium (V), 67
              Zinc (Zn), 67
              Zirconium (Zr), 67
              Aluminum and Its Alloys, 68
              Copper and Its Alloys, 71
              Lead and Its Alloys, 74
              Magnesium and Its Alloys, 77
              Titanium and Its Alloys, 79
              Tin and Its Alloys, 79
              Zinc and Its Alloys, 82
              Chapter 5: Heat Treatment of Steel 83
              Some of the Basics, 83
              Heat Treating Equipment, 93
              Chapter 6: Tailoring the Properties of Nonferrous Alloys, 101
              Precipitation Hardening, 102
              Heat Treating of Aluminum Alloys, 104
              Heat Treating of Beryllium-Copper Alloys, 105
              Heat Treating of Nickel-Base Superalloys, 108
              Heat Treating of Copper-Zinc Alloys, 110
              Heat Treating of Titanium-Base Alloys, 111
              Chapter 7: Hot Working and Cold Working of Ferrous and Nonferrous Metals 113
              Hot Working Technology, 113
              Hot Extrusion Technology, 115
              Cold Forming Technology, 119
              Chapter 8: Fabricability of Materials: A Key Factor in Selection, 131
              Fabrication Properties of Ferrous Alloys, 131
              Fabrication Properties of Nonferrous Metals and Alloys, 134
              Joining Processes: Welding, Brazing, and Soldering, 135
              Chapter 9: The Material Selection Process, 151
              The Materials Battle, 152
              Selection Factors, 152
              Standards and Specifications, 160
              Chapter 10: Failure of Metals under Service Conditions, 163
              Rupture, Wear, and Temperature Effects, 163
              Brittle Fracture, 163
              Ductile Fracture, 167
              Fatigue Fracture, 167
              The Many Faces of Wear, 169
              Temperature-Induced Failures, 178
              Chapter 11: Coping with Corrosion, 183
              Galvanic Corrosion, 184
              Uniform Corrosion, 185
              Crevice Corrosion, 186
              Stress-Corrosion Cracking, 189
              Corrosion Fatigue, 191
              Selective Leaching, 192
              Chapter 12: Quest for Quality, 195
              A Potpourri of Variability, 195
              Overview of Testing and Inspection Technology, 197
              Mechanical Testing, 198
              Nondestructive Testing, 203
              Metallographic Examination, 207
              Chapter 13: Progress by the Decade, 211
              1910–1920, 211
              1920–1930, 212
              1930–1940, 213
              1940–1950, 214
              1950–1960, 215
              1960–1970, 215
              1970–1980, 216
              1980–1990, 217
              Glossary, 219
              Bibliography, 259
              Index, 261

              Here's the link:

              http://asmcommunity.asminternational...0aRCRD#details

              Finally, here's a good starting reference guide published by the AWS as a primer: If you're not ready for the depth of George Linnerts Welding Metallurgy and find data books overloaded, then this guide is for you. Its written at just the right level for an intelligent introduction for the engineer new to welding and the up and coming senior technician.

              Tables and figures support these topics:

              * metal structures,
              * metal forms,
              * diffusion,
              * solid solubility,
              * residual stress,
              * shielding and purging,
              * phase transformation,
              * hardness and hardenability,
              * grain size,
              * stainless steels,
              * aluminum and its alloys,
              * copper and its alloys,
              * refractory alloys,
              * and repair welding.

              Here's the link:

              http://www.normas.com/AWS/pages/PRGWM-1999.html

              There's more but, these last two are the best for anyone who is just starting out IMHO.

              This one is an excellent teaching book:

              http://www.go2atp.com/Metallurgy_P63C31.cfm

              Hope this helps.
              Sincerely,
              Kent
              Welding is an art. But is also science in action. Physics and chemistry. Got to love it.

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              • #8
                Weygers, The Making of Tools

                I literally bought this book at my local used book shop two weeks ago. It is in mint condition, and cost me seven dollars. It is FANTASTIC. As mentioned, it's about metal, but he fully explains making all kinds of tools, especially wood and stoneworking. I think it was a 1973 printing. My local blacksmith/forge shop is 3 generations old, and one of the sons (who is 50) who I have become friends with, borrowed my book...He couldn't believe the content and has picked up new ideas as well.

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                • #9
                  Try a local community college and see what they are using for textbooks. There are plenty of places online to find em cheap, then. IIRC, I used an earlier edition of this book here: http://www.textbooks.com/ISBN/978082...C3AUCUTMQDCM2B

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                  • #10
                    good metallurgy book

                    I am a fan of used books. Look on ebay and amazon. I also concur that the book 'Metals and How to Weld Them' is a very good, short book. It's not expensive either. Buying a used book is better too because you won't have much invested and if you don't like the book it is no big deal. Local book stores also have technical books too. Bottom line is that you shouldn't have to spend too much money if you look around a bit.
                    Del

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                    • #11
                      a good place for metalworking/blacksmithing books is Lindsay's Technical Books.....their catalogs are interesting and entertaining....lots of re-prints of turn-of-the-century technical info of ALL kinds...look up www.lindsaybks.com
                      "Associate yourselves with men of good quality, if you esteem your own reputation, for it is better to be alone than in bad company" George Washington

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                      • #12
                        Weygers wrote several books - great stuff.
                        --- RJL ----------------------------------------------

                        Ordinarily I'm insane, but I have lucid moments when I'm merely stupid.
                        -------------------------

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                        • #13
                          http://www.knovel.com/web/portal/bro...LAY_bookid=863
                          Paul in VT

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                          • #14
                            Can anyone recommend literature for welding with dense metals?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NormanPritts View Post
                              Can anyone recommend literature for welding with dense metals? I tried to find good material in service with an extensive library of summary samples https://freebooksummary.com/category...er-wes-moore-2 when I also found a sample about The Other Wes Moore Book Summary. Unfortunately, I didn't find anything there, I think there may be other online resources.
                              Good material, but I think it is better to refer to the resources that were listed above.

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