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    On a whim while at Northern Tool the other day, I decided to pick up a 1.5 diopter cheater lens. I remembered reading several people talk about them, so I figured what the heck. While there I picked up a new #10 lens and a new clear lens to give me the best possible results while trying the cheater. My brother-in-law (who is a certified weldor) was there and cautioned me against using them. He said he can't stand them at all and they make him off balance. I tried it anyways. Well, all I gotta say is WOW. At the age of 35, I figure my eyes are still in pretty good shape, but the cheater makes it a good bit easier to see what the heck is going on, without putting my face in the puddle. Huge difference, IMO!

    On another note, I let the Bro-in-law take the new(er) 187 for a test drive. With him being a guy that has to pass x-ray for nuke applications, he gave it a two thumbs up as well as my sample passes for him to inspect. Twas a good day.

  • #2
    The off balance thing occurs when the hood is being raised, or put down...you get over that quickly.

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    • #3
      The brother in law is still young, ask him about his eyes after he turns 50, i am sure he will have nothing but good things to say about the cheater then. I use to be just like him, i never liked them when i was 35, but now that i am over 50 i could not weld without one.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sunpeople View Post
        The brother in law is still young, ask him about his eyes after he turns 50, i am sure he will have nothing but good things to say about the cheater then. I use to be just like him, i never liked them when i was 35, but now that i am over 50 i could not weld without one.

        I had 20/200 vision in my right eye for more than 40 years.... Developed a cataract in 2005 and had it operated on and in one day went from 20-200 to 20/25 in only a few hrs!! The eye focuses at long distance.

        Now need to have the left eye operated on and they will install a lens in that eye that will focus at CLOSE distance!!!!...

        Its gonna be "heck" to find a cheater with 2 different "visions" in it???
        Evidently from what the doc tells me the close / distance thingy is done every day...no need for "glasses" at all then???

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        • #5
          Something I learned is that if your glasses have an astigmatism correction, wear them under the hood and use a cheater. The cheater does the magnification and the glasses do the astigmatism bending and lo and behold, I can see great. Need a less powerful cheater b/c the glasses are doing some of the mag work. Add a bright light for icing on the cake.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by sunpeople View Post
            The brother in law is still young, ask him about his eyes after he turns 50, i am sure he will have nothing but good things to say about the cheater then. I use to be just like him, i never liked them when i was 35, but now that i am over 50 i could not weld without one.
            I'm the one that's 35 with good eyes. I still like the cheater. The brother-in-law is 33. What I really like about the cheater is you can have your head a little more out of ideal position and further away from the work if needed and still see as if you were close.

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            • #7
              Just wondering

              How close are you getting to the puddle to see it clearly? I keep a contact in my right eye and haven't used a cheater yet. But it sounds like I might use one.

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              • #8
                cheater lens

                i'm 30 and have been wearing bifocals since i was 6.i think by the time i'm 50 i'll have to use binoculars under my hood...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PJinNJ View Post
                  How close are you getting to the puddle to see it clearly?
                  Jersey, Probably 15" (that's 0.381 meter for yall Canadian readers) and maybe a smidge closer sometimes. Up close and personal w/ lots of bright light on the work.
                  Garfish

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                  • #10
                    Thanks

                    That's about where I am too, up close and personal, but I'm lacking bright lights. Maybe I'll try that and the cheaters to change my view of things. Of course it could be that I'm 56.......... but I doubt that, I still feel young I just can't see if I look it. LOL

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                    • #11
                      I just bought bifocal safety glasses to wear under the hood, available at most welding or safety supply stores. Hopefully they will help seeing the puddle.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PJinNJ View Post
                        That's about where I am too, up close and personal, but I'm lacking bright lights. Maybe I'll try that and the cheaters to change my view of things. Of course it could be that I'm 56.......... but I doubt that, I still feel young I just can't see if I look it. LOL
                        I am at that 50 mark too. One of those cheap 500w halogen shop lights will make your eyes young again. They get hot though, so watch out.
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                        • #13
                          For Sully

                          Hi,

                          I have mon-vision contact lenses. One contact is set for distance and the other for close work. That sounds like what the docs are going to do for you.

                          I still like cheaters since I get a good picture from both eyes. Look for cheaters that the lenses can be popped out of the frame and buy two sets of different strengths and swap lenses. I paid about $3.00 for mine so they are cheap.

                          I even asked my eye doc to calculate the best correction for me since I weld closer than I read or use a computer and I like a little extra correction for welding.

                          Just by the way, if you can't have young eyes mono-vision is a good solution. Day-to-day I put my contacts in the morning and don't wear any glasses (except safety if needed) all day, but if I'm driving through nice country I still put in two distance contacts and carry my reading glasses. It's a nicer view.

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