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  • .030 v/s .035 Wire Thru Hobart 210 and Spool Gun

    Just ordered the Hobart 210 Handler with the included Spool Gun. I haven't got it yet, but was wanting to buy extra aluminum wire for a job I'm wanting to do once I get the welder.

    Does anybody have experience with this welder and the Spool Gun? I will be welding 1/8 tubing and 1/4 inch plate. I'm wondering what differences you'll see with the two different size wires and what size I should be looking for given the size machine I have coming and the application? I'd like to get started off on the right foot without waisting too much money. Also, whats a good source for wire? Thanks in advance for any advice and sorry for so many questions. BTW, I did a search in this topic and didn't find any helpful information. Time to start a new thread!

    2Biz

  • #2
    I have ran both sizes thru a 210, I happen to like 030 better and didn't see much gain from larger wire, dont recall all the details as to how I came to that conclusion but it stuck for some reason. I guess it was more manageable on lighter material.
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    • #3
      For me, it depended on the wire. Some ran better in .030 and some were better in .035. The differences weren't huge, nor were the weld bad. It was more an ease of operation deal. For example, the Pinnacle ran better in .035 while Hobart .030 was perfect. IMO, the Hobart ran the best of all the wires in the HH210.
      Don


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      • #4
        I have the 3035 spoolgun and have been using .035 wire for the last 10 years. I just switched to .030 and really like it...Bob
        Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
        Metal Master Fab
        Salem, Ohio
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        • #5
          Brand of wire

          I think I am going to get the Hobart 4043 wire at TSC in .030 to use with my MM175 and Spoolmate 100 gun. Wondering if anyone has used or tried the same wire from HTP or usawelding on eBay? Link> http://www.htpweld.com/products/welding_wire/index.htm

          Its listed at $5 for a 1 lb spool of 4043 on eBay plus shipping of course.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by wmgeorge View Post
            Wondering if anyone has used or tried the same wire from HTP or usawelding on eBay? Link> http://www.htpweld.com/products/welding_wire/index.htm

            Its listed at $5 for a 1 lb spool of 4043 on eBay plus shipping of course.
            I use usawelds 5356 as they don't sell 4043 in .030. I prefer Crown Alloys .030 4043 @ 7 bucks a spool from my LWS. There is some wire on ebay now buy a 12 pack it comes out to 3.91 a spool incl shipping...Bob
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            Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
            Metal Master Fab
            Salem, Ohio
            Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
            http://www.ceilingtrains.com/
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sawking/
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southbend10k/

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            • #7
              Bob thanks for the tip. I went today to Lowe's and purchased 2 rolls of the Lincoln 4043 in .030. It welded so nice in the spool gun vs the 5356 (not sure of the brand) my son had purchased. None of the spatter, smoke or hard to control with this stuff, glad I got two rolls. The bead looks like a TIG weld plus its nice and bright.

              I just ordered from HTP some contact tips for the spool gun last night on eBay, they shipped out before noon today!
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              • #8
                Another thought to control your wire cost is to use a drill or lathe to refill your 1 Lb forms from a 30 pounder. I am sure if you have a good bit to do it will probably lower your wire cost noticably and give you access to a larger selection of suppliers. Just a thought....
                Bob
                Enough tools to do anything, common sense to use em properly.
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                • #9
                  Here is my rewinder set up. I use my spoolgun for steel welding too because of the extra long reach and i am not paying 15 bucks for a little spool of wire. Plus i get some half empty spools that are damaged and i salvage the wire...Bob
                  Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
                  Metal Master Fab
                  Salem, Ohio
                  Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
                  http://www.ceilingtrains.com/
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sawking/
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southbend10k/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
                    Here is my rewinder set up. I use my spoolgun for steel welding too because of the extra long reach and i am not paying 15 bucks for a little spool of wire. Plus i get some half empty spools that are damaged and i salvage the wire...Bob
                    That is the exact same thing I did when someone gave me a 12" spool of 0.35 4043 wire with a few pounds still on it.
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                    • #11
                      JUST REMEMBER TO KEEP THE WINDING SPEED DOWN LOW YOU DON'T WANT A FINGER, ARM OR TONGUE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEW SPOOL...Bob
                      Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
                      Metal Master Fab
                      Salem, Ohio
                      Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
                      http://www.ceilingtrains.com/
                      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sawking/
                      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southbend10k/

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
                        JUST REMEMBER TO KEEP THE WINDING SPEED DOWN LOW YOU DON'T WANT A FINGER, ARM OR TONGUE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEW SPOOL...Bob
                        Yea, Talk about contaminating the wire...
                        A Tongue?? How about some other body parts. But we won't go there..
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                        • #13
                          Now if we can figure something to use on our power feed or threading screw to do a level wind on the small spool. I've got a Emco (not Enco) 11 inch lathe, I see the rest of you have South Bends. Had one of those at one time.
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                          Journeyman Refrigeration Pipefitter
                          Semi-pro/Hobby Welder
                          Hobart Handler 140
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wmgeorge View Post
                            Now if we can figure something to use on our power feed or threading screw to do a level wind on the small spool. I've got a Emco (not Enco) 11 inch lathe, I see the rest of you have South Bends. Had one of those at one time.
                            That would not be hard to do but, the issue would be any backlash you would have when shifting directions, that would cause a build up of wire on each side of the spool.
                            I just used a rag and level winded it by hand and, to make sure no body parts or clothing got caught.
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                            • #15
                              Here was a 5 minute job i did yesterday for a customer. These are trailer ramps and they were too long to fit the holders so somone wacked off a few inches and i had to seal weld the ends and the first bar. Used my MM185 with spoolgun and 3035 wire. Ran all downhills and the alum welded great...Bob
                              Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
                              Metal Master Fab
                              Salem, Ohio
                              Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
                              http://www.ceilingtrains.com/
                              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sawking/
                              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/southbend10k/

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